Because it's becoming apparent that Valve isn't that concerned about the
"communities".....wonder if there were a large number of server owners who
decided to boycott for a weekend or week and take down all their servers.
 I know, I know .... it would "punish" the general player and most server
owners wouldn't want to shoot themselves in the foot.....but there has to
be *something* the general server owner community, who are a major backbone
of the tf2 servers out there, can do (or not do) to send a message to valve
that they are slowly killing the communities that help bring in the revenue
they so enjoy (hats, etc).  I simply don't understand why for the sake a
few, the masses are handcuffed..... /end rant


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Yun Huang Yong <gumby_li...@mooh.org>wrote:

> +1
>
> I don't understand what seems to be a general stance of "we have a few bad
> actors therefore we should change feature X to the detriment of everyone".
>
> First it was the MOTD.
> Now it's Quickplay.
>
> Why is the approach not to identify & specifically punish bad actors?
>
>
> On 24/01/2014 12:24 PM, Chris Oryschak wrote:
>
>> Agreed.  Why don't you punish the communities/servers that are abusing
>> this.  Every step a good community takes moves forward to attempt to
>> retain
>> the player gets flushed down the drain with these changes.
>> Quickplay is ultimately useless for any community, unless you are valve.
>>
>> I currently have 235 players on my servers right now, of all of those only
>> 23 players are from quickplay.  Seriously running servers for this game is
>> slowly becoming unenjoyable as a hobby.
>> One day they will hopefully realize that the communities they are truly
>> hurting are the ones that helped make them $139mil last year.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Why?
>>>
>>> Adding a "Valve servers only" checkbox (that's checked by default) is
>>> going
>>> to hurt enough (and only those communities that are playing by the rules;
>>> cheating communities will just steal *more* traffic from the legitimate
>>> communities).
>>>
>>> It's now all but impossible to try to retain a client who joined via
>>> Quickplay (and those are the clients we *need* to retain). We can't show
>>> them our website. We can't even allow them to use a menu to jump to
>>> another
>>> one of our servers anymore.
>>>
>>> Please think about what you're doing. If your intention is to harm the
>>> good
>>> communities, you're doing a fine job at it.
>>>
>>> Dr. McKay
>>> www.doctormckay.com
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