Ian, You are absolutely right that there is some basic doc this and other features for that needs to be created that for experienced Hoboists may seem obvious. We had the same issue on our team. Tola was extremely frustrated until, while working with Tom, the lights came on and she said "This is awesome!" This coming for one of the most talented and fast Java programmers I have ever had on my team.
We are right now working out a deal with someone to help write an introductory Hobo manual "for the rest of us" SOON. Tom and James have so much on their plate just getting the insides documented that we need other resources who have had the same experience as you and me to write with a fresh point of view. I also believe that the doc should not assume Rails experience. I came to Hobo because I wanted a RAD tool w/o what I saw (IMHO) as wa too mnay lines of code in Rails. The guy I am considering to help us in the writing is a great synthesizer and explainer, and has excellent business savvy as well as a PhD in Physics. (The the learning curve for Hobo has nothing to do with innate intelligence!) There is magic in Hobo, but just like the best magic tricks, some features seem so impossIble to fathom but obvious after explained in a step-by-step fashion. I think it will take the Newbie's view to help get more people over the hump during this period before 1.0. -Owen On Dec 16, 1:10 pm, Ian Wood <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes I have already found the definitions that are automatically > defined at apps/views/taglibs/auto/rapid/, my problem is that I cannot > find any up to date information on how to call these definitions, and > the views are not created for me so I can't check pre-existing code. > So for example, I have > > <def tag="index-page" for="Post"> > <page merge title="Posts"> > <body: class="index-page post" param/> > > <content: param> > <header param="content-header"> > <h2 param="heading">Posts</h2> > > <p param="count" if>There <count prefix="are"/></p> > </header> > > <section param="content-body"> > > <a action="new" to="&model" param="new-link"/> > > <page-nav param="top-page-nav"/> > > <collection param/> > > <page-nav param="bottom-page-nav"/> > </section> > </content:> > </page> > </def> > > in apps/views/taglibs/auto/rapid/pages.dryml > but I don't know how to use this correctly within another page. I can > see that it is creating a link to the "Posts" model but with no > explanations available it's quite hard to tell how this is happening. > Even the DRYML information on passing parameters seems to be out of > date so I have no clue how to call anything! All I need is one working > and up to date example of how to define a call to a single model > instead of an array of models. As standard in index.dryml it uses: > repeat="&front_models" which is obviously all the models. But in the > defs above it is calling "&model" but how is it's focus being defined? > Is it by the class, or is it simply that this page will already be > linked to the relevant model by default? If so how do I create these > associations for the "home" page? Sorry if what I am asking seems very > simple, but I have been trying to work out how this works for days > now, and I simply can't find any information explaining it. If I were > using standard Rails I might redirect the "Home" controller to the > "Posts" view using: redirect_to(:action => 'Posts') but this > doesn't work with Hobo because all of the views are DRYML not ERB. > > On Dec 16, 5:22 pm, James Garlick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > They are created, just all in one file at app/views/taglibs/auto/rapid/ > > pages.dryml. You can't edit that file directly > > as it is generated dynamically but maybe you can use the definitions > > in there to help you write the front page. > > > On 16 Dec 2008, at 16:20, Ian Wood wrote: > > > > I think I have explained myself a bit misleadingly. Thanks to your > > > post I have got to grips with how to control what tabs display in my > > > app. The final piece of the puzzle for me is to work out how I go > > > about replicating the appearance of the "post" page on the "home" > > > page. As it stands index.dryml creates an array and populates it with > > > the names of all of the models I have created. This creates links for > > > each of the models on the "home" page. The final part of my problem is > > > redefining this and replacing it with a display of only the "post" > > > model. I'm a little lost with this because show.dryml pages for all of > > > the models aren't created as standard so I have nothing to go on! > > > > On Dec 16, 4:12 pm, James Garlick <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Replace the main navigation on your front page with a custom one just > > >> for that page: > > > >> app/views/front/index.dryml > > > >> <page> > > >> <main-nav: replace> > > >> <navigation class="main-nav"> > > >> <nav-item with="&Post">Posts</nav-item> > > >> </navigation> > > >> </main-nav:> > > >> </page> > > > >> On 16 Dec 2008, at 16:00, Ian Wood wrote: > > > >>> Hi James. > > > >>> Thank you! This is part of what I was looking for! > > >>> I've now redefined the <main-nav> tag so the navigation is now fixed > > >>> without breaking the route to posts. > > >>> So the final part of my problem is how to get index.dryml to only > > >>> display "posts" instead of all of the models I have defined. > > > >>> On Dec 16, 2:35 pm, James Garlick <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> You have removed the posts route, so you won't be able to navigate > > >>>> to / > > >>>> posts anymore. I don't think that is what you wanted. > > > >>>> Customising the navigation is easy, all you have to do is redefine > > >>>> <main-nav>, there's an example of this in the cookbook > > >>>> app:http://github.com/tablatom/hobocookbook/tree/master/app/views/taglibs > > >>>> ... > > > >>>> On 16 Dec 2008, at 13:47, [email protected] wrote: > > > >>>>> Hello all. > > > >>>>> I have what is probably an impossibly simple problem: > > > >>>>> I have created a Hobo app with 4 models & controllers: post, site, > > >>>>> sound & image > > > >>>>> I want the tabbed navigation to show: home, site, sound, image > > >>>>> with > > >>>>> the "home" tab containing the "post" information. > > > >>>>> I defined: auto_actions :all, :except => :index in the "posts" > > >>>>> controller to remove it from the tabs. > > > >>>>> Now I need to redefine the app/views/front/index.dryml page so > > >>>>> that it > > >>>>> only shows "posts" as it currently shows "images" "sounds" and > > >>>>> "sites" > > > >>>>> I understand that this is because it is repeating "front_models" > > >>>>> but > > >>>>> how do I call a specific model? I'm finding customising Hobo quite > > >>>>> hard because lots of the information I have found on the topic > > >>>>> (Especially using DRYML and Rapid Tags) doesn't work! Very > > >>>>> confusing > > >>>>> for the newcomer. > > > >>>>> Thanks. > > > >>>>> Ian. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
