Yeah, I think things will improve soon. I'm just psyched with Rails in
general at the moment, and when I discovered Hobo I thought Christmas
had come early. Now the reality is dragging me down a little! I'm also
very keen to help, but I don't feel I can until I have the rudimentary
workings of Hobo sewn up. I'm more than a little reliant on the good
will of members of this forum posting helpful information. I'm coming
at this whole thing from a design background, but I am willing to put
the effort in to learning the better frameworks because I feel they
really open new possibilities on the web. I identified Rails as my
first port of call for this, and then discovered Hobo whilst learning
Rails. It seems to have taken the idea of rapid development even
further, so I am investing time in it on the basis that it will pay me
back later. I also really like the vibe other Hobo'ers are giving off,
everything seems to be very positive and supportive which is killer!
The only blues I have with Hobo are directly related to that feeling
of being lost with no directions.

On Dec 28, 9:34 pm, Brett Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Understand that trying to find the hobo way to do things is desirable
> and helps others as well as advances the cause.  Wish I knew the
> answer to this. I've been using hobo without trying to learn
> everything about it, as I must produce working web apps for my job in
> limited time.  So I'm not much help here.  What I have done is to
> freeze a particular version of hobo, and if I can't figure out the
> hobo way to do something I just hack around it until I get something
> that works.  I know this reduces the maintainability and can create
> other problems, but I do not always have the luxury of waiting for
> something to be done by someone else.
>
> My main concern with hobo is that it is geared around creating
> websites, where I'm creating web apps with it.  What I mean by website
> is something that is informational, or at most a blog type or shopping
> site, where a web app is software that might normally run on an OS but
> is instead developed in a client/server fashion with the web browser
> being the universal client.  The problem with hobo is pages/forms
> being tied to tables instead of tied to generic objects.  Am
> constantly working around this.
>
> A guess as to why the documentation is lagging is because hobo is
> evolving and documenting something kind of makes it harder to change
> it if it needs changed.  I think at 1.0 things will turn around, but
> until then the newbie will probably struggle with it.  If you are
> willing to struggle and take the chance, and Tom and other developers
> continue to improve hobo then the effort will have been worth it.
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