I don't know but I tested and the to_int was the point it was loading
the association.  I added an || 6 right after it and it still loaded
the association.  Adding the try.size before it avoided it.

Rails 2.3.2
Edge hobo as of 2aff4f212fb38ec0c7094b47e56a717445fb25e8

On Aug 13, 5:59 pm, Scott Bronson <[email protected]> wrote:
> https://hobo.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8324/tickets/261-calling-resp...
>
> Yep, that's probably the most likely culprit.
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Matt Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > There's a old bug that we still haven't pinned down that sometimes
> > causes extra association loads when calling respond_to? on an
> > AssociationCollection. I don't have the Lighthouse number handy, but
> > it's a known issue (possibly with AR itself and not Hobo).
>
> > This may be a related issue.
>
> > --Matt Jones
>
> > On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Scott Bronson wrote:
>
> > > I don't see why the count tag would be loading your whole
> > > association.  Here's the full line:
>
> > > c = this.try.to_int || this.try.total_entries || (this.try.loaded?
> > > && this.try.length) || this.try.count || this.try.length
>
> > > piece by piece:
>
> > >    this.try.to_int:             would never load an association
> > >    this.try.total_entries:   just an attr_reader, will never load
> > >    (this.try.loaded? && this.try.length): won't load if it's not
> > > already loaded
> > >    this.try.count:             would fire off a COUNT but won't load
> > > anything
> > >    this.try.length:            finally, yes, this would load the assoc
>
> > > So, if your association is already loaded, (this.try.loaded? &&
> > > this.try.length) would fire and compute the length from the array.
> > > If not, this.try.count would fire off a SQL COUNT.
>
> > > Either way, it should already behave exactly like this.try.size.  It
> > > should not cause any associations to be loaded.
>
> > > Can you explain more?
>
> > >     - Scott
>
> > > Some notes, probably ignroable...
>
> > > Trying to figure out the intent behind that line of code...
>
> > > first, check to see if the argument is already numeric:
> > > this.try.to_int
> > >   works for: Integer, Float, Numeric, BigDecimal
> > >   (It also works for Symbol, which is unfortunate:
> > >     >> :abc.to_int
> > >     => 158489
> > >   Don't pass symbols to the count tag!)
>
> > > Then, see if you have a will_paginate collection:
> > > this.try.total_entries
>
> > > Then, duplicate the size call: (this.try.loaded? && this.try.length)
> > > || this.try.count
> > >   If the association is loaded, call length, else call count.
> > >   works for: ActiveRecord associations
>
> > > Finally, if count fails, fall back to length: this.try.length
> > >   works for: anything else!
>
> > > Appendix 2: what's the difference between count, length and size
> > > anyway?
>
> > > Inhttp://blog.hasmanythrough.com/2008/2/27/count-length-sizeJosh
> > > says:
> > >   Model.count: always runs a SQL COUNT query
> > >   Model.length: loads the association if it isn't loaded, then
> > > counts the array
> > >   Model.size: like length if the association is loaded, and like
> > > count if it isn't
>
> > > I concur.  count always runs the sql query:
>
> > > >> c=Channel.first; c.shows.count && c.shows.count && c.shows.count
> > > Channel Load (0.3ms)  SELECT * FROM "channels" LIMIT 1
> > > SQL (0.2ms)  SELECT count(*) AS count_all FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > SQL (0.2ms)  SELECT count(*) AS count_all FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > SQL (0.2ms)  SELECT count(*) AS count_all FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > => 23
>
> > > length loads the association if it's not already loaded, then
> > > returns the array length:
>
> > > >> c=Channel.first; c.shows.length && c.shows.length && c.shows.length
> > > Channel Load (0.3ms)  SELECT * FROM "channels" LIMIT 1
> > > Show Load (3.6ms)  SELECT "shows".* FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > => 23
>
> > > size acts like count if the association isn't loaded, and like
> > > length if it is:
>
> > > >> c=Channel.first; c.shows.size && c.shows.size && c.shows.reload
> > > && c.shows.size && c.shows.size
> > > Channel Load (0.3ms)  SELECT * FROM "channels" LIMIT 1
> > > SQL (0.2ms)  SELECT count(*) AS count_all FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > SQL (0.2ms)  SELECT count(*) AS count_all FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > Show Load (3.6ms)  SELECT "shows".* FROM "shows" INNER JOIN
> > > "channel_shows" ON "shows".permid_id = "channel_shows".show_id WHERE
> > > (("channel_shows".channel_id = 2147005940))
> > > => 23
>
> > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, kevinpfromnm
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > No, I haven't yet.
>
> > > On Aug 11, 8:18 am, Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Cool.  Have you alerted Bryan or Tom?
>
> > > > On Aug 7, 2:02 am, kevinpfromnm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I made one small change to a local version of the count tag and it
> > > > > kept it from loading the whole association every time I used it.
>
> > > > > I added this.try.size || to the beginning of the c = line.  The
> > > > > try.to_int was causing it to load the whole association.  Size
> > > is nice
> > > > > because if it's already loaded it uses array length.  If it's
> > > not, it
> > > > > uses count.  And it will use an auto cache counter column if it's
> > > > > available.
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