I think we're also missing something important for good cucumber integration, which is that because the default hobo tag definitions do not use <label>'s, we have to use the name attribute to get cucumber to enter information. This makes it hard to have test cases written in readable english (especially if you have accessible collections or use view hints a lot). It shouldn't be hard to change the DRYML tags to use labels in <field-list> though...
On Sep 21, 10:20 pm, Andy Waite <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > On Sep 21, 4:13 am, Matt Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It seems like an interesting idea, but given the amount that's built > > in with Hobo, it also smells a lot like testing the framework instead > > of the user code. > > I'm trying to be careful not to test the framework, but it's often > difficult to find the right balance. > > > Even changing something simple (permissions on > > Widget, for instance) will mean a line or two of changes to the code > > and several times that to the tests. > > Yeah, that thought has occurred to me - I'm hoping to make the test > fairly DRY so that changes should be minimal. > > > Also, the hobo_model_resource > > generator doesn't really have enough information to generate good > > tests - what if the first thing I plan to do is change auto_actions > > to :none and add auto_actions_for :something_else, :all? The generator > > doesn't know that, and now I've got a ton of tests that aren't really > > useful. > > An approach I've been thinking about is to include scenarios for > testing each disabled auto_action but have them commented out > initially. So if you remove :new, then you delete the scenario 'Users > should be able to create new widgets' and uncomment the scenario > 'Users are not allowed to create new widgets'. > > > Finally, most of this code seems like it belongs more in a framework- > > level integration test, something that I keep meaning to post about... > > I think both could happily co-exist. I'm hoping that theCucumber > stuff will be more focused on business rules and UI. > > Thanks for all the feedback, it's given me a few things to think > about. > > BDD and Hobo come from two very different philosophies so it's > challenging to combine them! > > Andy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
