One of the major reasons I started using Hobo was the desire not to play a lot with HTML and JavaScript except on the edges. I think you will Hobo better than standard Rails on the RIA front, and there is much more to come in that direction...
You'll find a few posts here on the Flex front, but a major effort has not gone that way. There is more interest now that it is open source. The new HTML 5 Canvas is another path. I would like to push for a few out-of-the box RIA "themes" we all would be happy with... -Owen On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Wildman <[email protected]> wrote: > I'll be looking at the book as I try out hobo...it does look > impressive. > > I've mostly done client server apps with fat clients, and a major > issue I have with rails (vs say flex) is that the user interface which > rails generates is less rich. I know rails is not focused on rich > client interfaces...and I'm also sure that one can build rich user > interfaces on top of rails/hobo. To get there, I assume that I'd need > to be pretty good with html, javascript, and css? I am not eager to go > there, but that's the way to get a rich ui with rails, right? I've > also heard that there have been some experiments with rails using flex > for the ui, but not sure it's a mainstream, ie well developed, path? > > On Mar 1, 4:27 am, Owen Dall <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please take a look at our book "Rapid Rails with Hobo" . We have very > > detailed Windows installation instructions in Chapter 2. > > > > http://hobocentral.net/books/ > > > > Thanks, > > > > Owen > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM, MartOn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I do not installation time on Windows is included in those 2 hours :-D > > > Based on my experience, rails on windows always requires a bit "more" > > > than for instance osx. > > > > > But if you want something simple up and running that normally works > > > out of the box, then try our the the RubyStack installer from Bitnami. > > >http://bitnami.org/stack/rubystack. > > > Or choose the redmine stack,http://bitnami.org/stack/redmine. then > > > you have a project/bugtracker app as well preinstalled. > > > > > SQL are always a pain to get in. Also MySQL is a bit tricky on > > > Windows, since latest MySQL server for windows, have a sql.dll library > > > file that is incompatible with ruby 1.8.7. So you have to add a > > > earlier version dll. > > > > > I agree that postgre is best, but for rapid deployment, SQLite is very > > > handy. > > > My normal recommendation is to use SQlite when prototyping > > > application. Once you see that database model finalizes, move to > > > postgre or other SQL server. > > > > > As for your problem: > > > - Do a netstat on your windows machine to see if server even has > > > created anything listening ports. > > > - Have you tried an empty rails app and see if that works? > > > rails myapp + cd myapp + ruby script/server > > > then maybe scaffolding one model and test: > > > ruby script/generate scaffold post title:string body:text > > > rake db:migrate > > > ruby script/server > > > ->http://0.0.0.0:3000/posts > > > - You may try to start the rails server with mongrel. > > > gem install mongrel > > > then script/server will pick mongrel instead. Maybe mongrel gives > > > you a better error message. > > > > > /MartOn > > > > > /MartOn > > > > > On Feb 28, 10:17 pm, Wildman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm taking a fresh look at ror and hobo after a couple of years. The > > > > "Hobo in Two Minutes" tutorial on the hobo website is not working for > > > > me and I'd like some help with that. Maybe someone involved with the > > > > hobo project will take a look at the tutorial, if it needs revision. > > > > > > First it seems to be true that rails no longer uses mysql as the > > > > default db? That's an interesting change...postgres would be my > > > > preferred db in any case, if I decide to pursue ror and or hobo. > > > > > > I'm on windows xp. I used the windows installer to get ruby 1.8.7 on > > > > the box. Then gem install rails. Then gem install hobo. > > > > > > The "Hobo in Two Minutes" tutorial seems to fall apart because sqlite > > > > is not installed automatically. Maybe that's already understood by > > > > everyone. I think I got sqlite 3 installed after some struggling - > the > > > > dll and def go into ruby\bin, and then gem install sqlite3-ruby. That > > > > generates a heap of error messages like "No definition for > > > > _wrap_new_CallbackData" but apparently that's mostly about the build > > > > in documentation? > > > > > > So then I go back and delete the thingybob folder and start the > > > > tutuorial again. As far as I can tell there are not errors. But when > I > > > > issue > > > > > > ruby script/server > > > > > > and then browse tohttp://localhost:3000, it just sits there with > > > > 'waiting forhttp://localhost:3000'inthe status bar, forever. > > > > > > Any clues? > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Hobo Users" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > <hobousers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > - Owen- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hobo Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en. > > -- Thanks, - Owen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. 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