no, 2 tables, plants and characteristics and 2 join tables for the
provides and needs relationships

On Jun 2, 3:54 am, Ronbo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Kevin,
>
> I'm still not clear on this. You mentioned below that I'd need three
> tables in addition to 'plant', but I see:
>
> plant, characteristic, provides, needs, provides_characteristics, and
> needs_characteristics. Am I right that this means that each
> characteristic must be duplicated for the provides and needs
> relationships it will have with 'plant' and their is no way of keying
> two relationships with plant off the same table?
>
> On Jun 1, 5:33 pm, kevinpfromnm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > it sounds like what you are describing would need 3 additional tables
> > in addition to the plants table.
> > plant
>
> > characteristic
>
> > provides join
> > needs join
>
> > plant has many provides_characteristics and many provides through
> > provides characteristics
> > plant has many needs characteristics and many needs through needs
> > characteristics
>
> > then you can start looking at a characteristic and seeing what plants
> > have and need it relatively easily.  otherwise, you can add a flag on
> > a single join table that tells whether it's a provides or a needs... I
> > think the 4 table approach though will be easier to write views and
> > such for as there is a clear functional division between the provides
> > and needs relationships, even if the data difference is negligible.
>
> > On Jun 1, 2:40 pm, Ronbo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I have a beginner's question about modeling. The application I am
> > > working on is a plant database. One of the critical features is that
> > > it make it easy to represent symbiotic relationships (like the 3
> > > sisters in Mexico, squash, beans and corn), and to discover potential
> > > new relationships.
>
> > > So I have a plant model with some core characteristics describing a
> > > species. I would like to be able to assign certain attributes by which
> > > a plant has relationships with other species, such as:
>
> > > shade
> > > fixes_nitrogen
> > > scaffolding (corn provides a scaffold for beans to climb)
> > > Micronutrients
> > > etc.
>
> > > These would be another table.
> > > So far, easy.
>
> > > Plants can have one of two types of relationships with these
> > > characteristics. Either 'need' or 'provide'. So a plant could provide
> > > shade and need scaffolding, while another needs shade and provides
> > > scaffolding...
>
> > > Question: can this be represented with just two tables, and if so, how
> > > to go about it, or do I need to duplicate these characteristics in
> > > 'needs' and 'provides' tables? From the little I know about
> > > polymorphic associations, this seems different.
>
> > > Many thanks
>
>

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