I changed my #update_permitted? on the child to be:

def update_permitted?
  acting_user.signed_up?
end

No change. I tried returning true from both #create_permitted? and
#update_permitted? on the parent and child: no change.

Thanks for the tip. Any other ideas?
François

On 29 sep, 14:31, kevinpfromnm <[email protected]> wrote:
> would guess that your problem is in the update permission on the
> child.  I would think it's choking on updating the existing belongs_to
> association and thus not rendering that part of the form.  Hard to say
> for sure, but that'd be my take on it.
>
> On Sep 29, 7:58 am, François Beausoleil
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all!
>
> > I need help with the permission system. I can't make heads or tails of
> > it when using it in conjunction with child models.
>
> > The short version: when logged in as an admin, creating a model with
> > children works just fine. When I login as a user with administrator =>
> > false, I don't get the <input-many/>, even though I use #user_new and
> > create_permitted? returns true, always.
>
> > The long version...  Code athttp://gist.github.com/602767
>
> > In the pasted version, I have the code I really want to use, but if I
> > change the #create_permitted? methods to return true, the result is
> > the same. Removing the implementation of
> > KioskTransactionsController#new changes nothing - the lines aren't
> > displayed, and I can't use the +/- buttons. It's as if associations
> > weren't present when I'm not an admin. I also tried using #user_new
> > from KioskTransaction#initialize_with_no_consignment, to no avail.
>
> > I read the "The Permission System - associations" section of the
> > manual very carefully. I searched this group. I asked the great Google
> > (which led me to the manual). Nothing in the agility tutorial stroke
> > me as the answer to my question.
>
> > Again, I repeat: with no changes except logging in as an admin,
> > everything works. What am I missing?
>
> > Thanks!
> > François

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