One of the Search Engine Optimization (SEO) enhancements we have planned is
the option for the developer to:

1. Turn on SEO
2. Define all the Google-friendly meta tags( title, keywords, description,
etc.) within the ViewHints, which can include "calculated" or "derived"
fields

This will first be built for our Apps at USDA and we will push back the code
to Hobo.

Thoughts?





On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Henry Baragar <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Two things:
>
>    - Getting the counter should be a 1+1 operation, not 1+n. If its not,
>    then this could be a place for improvement.
>    - I find the counters to be almost useless in the final code: they are
>    good in development to show that the relationships work properly. I suspect
>    that this is the case in most applications (although I have no supporting
>    data), which means that optimizing it should be a lower priority.
>
> My 2 cents worth.
>
> Henry
>
> On September 30, 2010 07:24:12 am Tiago Franco wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> >
>
> > To solve the n+1 problem I've added counter_cache to most of the 1-N
>
> > relations. This has a significant impact, mainly because cards were
>
> > showing a lot of counters.
>
> >
>
> > Does it make sense to consider the introduction of counter_cache on Hobo
>
> > fields? Probably by adding them in the migration generator?
>
> >
>
> > TF
>
> >
>
> > On 09/30/2010 02:58 AM, kevinpfromnm wrote:
>
> > > The n+1 query problem is pretty prevalent if you don't use includes on
>
> > > your parent find. Any place it's becoming a hit, you should add
>
> > > an :include => :child or [:child1, :child2] or if you need
>
> > > grandchildren, { :child1 => [:grandchild1, gc2], :child2 => [] } See
>
> > > standard rails active_record find for exact details on syntax. That's
>
> > > going to be the majority from hobo, any extra queries will (usually)
>
> > > be from custom view code and permissions.
>
> > >
>
> > > It's unfortunately quite difficult to automatically optimize (but
>
> > > maybe there's something there by using children from viewhints or when
>
> > > compiling a page, maybe figure out what associations are needed and
>
> > > add those to a include list used by hobo_* in the controller?).
>
> > > Anyway, there's no magic bullet for optimizing database queries, just
>
> > > gotta poke and see what's actually getting called and how you can
>
> > > minimize it.
>
> > >
>
> > > As far as I know, there is no performance difference between fixed and
>
> > > generated. Both are compiled and only difference should be from any
>
> > > customizations on your part.
>
> > >
>
> > > Last question, don't know as I haven't got any public facing apps.
>
> > >
>
> > > On Sep 29, 6:46 pm, Scorpio<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> Hi. I'm beginning to understand now how Hobo works (at long last) and
>
> > >> its no longer a "just make it work" thing for me. I've begun thinking
>
> > >> about some optimization. The first thing that came to mind were
>
> > >> database queries. I've noticed that whenever I call a page with say a
>
> > >> lot of children i get a lot of queries. I've also noticed that there
>
> > >> are a lot of queries in general. Is that normal hobo behavior ? Can it
>
> > >> be optimized in some way ? (sorry for asking a seemingly dumb question
>
> > >> but I figure since Hobo has so much "magic" inside it might just have
>
> > >> a solution for it)
>
> > >>
>
> > >> The second issue are the generations of the un-customized pages that
>
> > >> Hobo makes. I've been wondering whats better. fixed show.dryml etc or
>
> > >> the generated ones (load- and performance-wise).
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Last but not least. How does the Hobo auto generation and a Hobo app
>
> > >> in general work with search engines when it comes to positioning the
>
> > >> website? are there any issues I need to know or any tedious tasks I
>
> > >> need to undertake to make it work? (I've made Hobo add metadata to a
>
> > >> page HTML-style)
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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>
> Henry Baragar
>
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