I tried it for the first time today, and IMO it is absolutely
impossible to take ANY advantage from it. Indeed it escapes the meta-
comments so you have all that soup in the page output itself! :-)

Bryan, since you talk about hiding the comments easily, I suspect you
used it with an old rails that was not escaping them.

ciao
dd

On Apr 14, 11:49 am, "Donald R. Ziesig" <[email protected]> wrote:
>   In case it got lost in my text,  the problem I saw was acres ;-) of
> RENDERED html comments,  complete with local styles, interspersed with a
> few square inches of my page's content.  It sounds like you guys are
> seeing html comments that are not rendered, but are viewable in
> firebug.  The 'official' page content was lost in the comments.
>
> Don Z.
>
> On 4/14/2011 11:40 AM, Domizio Demichelis wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >     A simple Hobo page I looked at had 189 DRYML|def comments using
> >     the below tip
>
> > Indeed that is the source of the mess :-).
>
> > Firebug shows the html only after you click on a node, so the ideal
> > behaviour for dryml meta-info would be teh possibility to selectively
> > show only the meta info you are interested in. I have posted in the
> > firebug forum to ask what is the simplest way to achieve that.
>
> > ciao
> > dd
>
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Bryan Larsen <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> >     Very Nice.
>
> >     A simple Hobo page I looked at had 189 DRYML|def comments using
> >     the below tip, so I think it's much more useful mixed into the
> >     source to provide context.  But not messing with the source is
> >     very appealing -- it's probably worth looking in to.
>
> >     Bryan
>
> >     On 11-04-14 09:49 AM, Domizio Demichelis wrote:
>
> >         I didn't thought about Firebug, but now that you mention it...
> >         it would
> >         be VERY interesting using something like this very new Firebug
> >         extension
> >         in order to add also DRYML specific info!
>
> >        https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/railsbug/
>
> >         Take a look at the templates tab (3rd screenshot)
>
> >         ciao
> >         dd
>
> >         On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Bryan Larsen
> >         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >         <mailto:[email protected]
> >         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
> >            Use it for a while, I suspect you'll eventually find it
> >         very useful.
> >            It goes a long way towards turning Hobo magic into Hobo
> >         science.
>
> >            Yes, it clutters up a standard view-source quite a bit, but
> >         firebug
> >            or any other tree structured viewer makes it very easy to
> >         navigate.
> >            Firebug will even let you hide all comments easily.
>
> >            For instance, you may find the close indicators
> >         unnecessary, but
> >            they are also very useful in determining the actually
> >         hierarchy that
> >            Hobo used.
>
> >            Bryan
>
> >            On 11-04-14 08:35 AM, Donald R. Ziesig wrote:
>
> >                Bryan,
>
> >                Thanks for the tip!
>
> >                Unfortunately, when I tried it I got many html
> >         comments, as in:
>
> >         
> > <!--[DRYML|def|login-page|50|/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/hobo-1.3.0.pre31/lib/hobo/rapid/taglibs/rapid_user_pages.dryml[-->
> >         
> > <!--[DRYML|call|simple-page|52|/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/hobo-1.3.0.pre31/lib/hobo/rapid/taglibs/rapid_user_pages.dryml[--><!--[DRYML|def|simple-page|4|/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/hobo-1.3.0.pre31/lib/hobo/rapid/taglibs/rapid_user_pages.dryml[-->
> >         
> > <!--[DRYML|call|page|5|/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/hobo-1.3.0.pre31/lib/hobo/rapid/taglibs/rapid_user_pages.dryml[--><!--[DRYML|def|page|11|app/views/taglibs/application.dryml[-->
> >         <!--[DRYML|call|old-page|12|app/views/taglibs ...
>
> >                rendered along with my normal output; so many that the
> >         view was
> >                pretty
> >                much useless.
>
> >                Not knowing of any dryml editors, I used:
>
> >                DRYML_EDITOR=abc
> >                export DRYML_EDITOR
>
> >                as the enabling definition. (I did hunt through the
> >         code for
> >                references
> >                to DRYML_EDITOR to see if there was something of use
> >         there, but only
> >                found a definition of code_editor which was not used
> >         anywhere
> >                else, so I
> >                had to presume that any non-blank value of DRYML_EDITOR was
> >                sufficient).
>
> >                Any idea of what I did wrong?
>
> >                Don Z.
>
> >                P.S. Your reply below crossed in the mail with my reply
> >         to Domizio
> >                outlining a crude but effective mod to the dryml
> >         templates. I saw it
> >                yesterday, but had to start the installation of 3000 ft
> >         of CAT6
> >                cable in
> >                our new office so had to wait till today to try it.
>
> >                On 4/13/2011 1:39 PM, Bryan Larsen wrote:
>
> >                    Such a simple solution to a major pain point. So I
> >         thought
> >                    to myself,
> >                    "there must be a reason it hasn't been done.". So I
> >         went
> >                    into Hobo to
> >                    try and hack it in and see what happens.
>
> >                    When I got to the right place, I found this in
> >                    dryml/template.rb:
>
> >                    def include_source_metadata
> >                    # disabled for now -- we're still getting broken
> >         rendering
> >                    with this
> >                    feature on
> >                    return false
> >                    @include_source_metadata = RAILS_ENV ==
> >         "development" &&
> >                    !ENV['DRYML_EDITOR'].blank? if
> >         @include_source_metadata.nil?
> >                    @include_source_metadata
> >                    end
>
> >                    I commented out the "return false" and set the
> >         DRYML_EDITOR
> >                    variable
> >                    in my environment, and it seems to work fine. Give
> >         it a try
> >                    and let me
> >                    know if it breaks anything!
>
> >                    cheers,
> >                    Bryan
>
> >                    P.S. Please don't start new message by replying to
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> >                    one unless
> >                    it's actually a reply. Many of us have properly
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> >                    readers,
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