Well that would be absolutely amazing Owen.  I think it's definitely
needed.  It's one of the pains of Rails generally and the more
"magical" things become, the more critical it is to have this
practical use case / workflow foundation or the ability to establish
one vicariously from those who work the most with it when just
starting.

So exciting!


-yll



On May 17, 1:58 pm, Owen Dall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks much for interest and support.  I really like your idea of putting
> more emphasis on typical workflow and perhaps typical problems encountered
> and creating cheatsheets that may help..
>
> I am sure people in the group will chime in, but I will also poll some of
> the guys in person.
>
> One of the things that might help is for others to post what their biggest
> hump was in learning Hobo.  It is often easy to forget., or easy to
> "repress", depending upon your point-of-view.
>
> Then we can focus some of our documentation efforts on the biggest "pain
> points".
>
> -Owen
>
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> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:40 PM, ylluminate <[email protected]> wrote:
> > NP Owen,  you're doing a tremendous job with this book.  I'm so
> > extremely happy with what you've got going on in terms of creating a
> > solid springboard for people into the wonderful world of Hobo.  As I
> > said before, I so wish that this would have been around when I started
> > dabbling years ago.
>
> > The only thing I'm hoping to really see, as I noted over on the
> > project site, is a very succinct cheat sheet to be able to peek into
> > the mind and actions of someone experienced with Hobo workflow.  Rails
> > and Hobo are so very easy in terms of what they really facilitate for
> > the developer, but the initial "hump" or learning curve is so steep
> > that this is really the only downside.  A nice snapshot of this
> > workflow, even though it will be modified and adapted by the personal
> > preference of the developer, would be worth gold simply as an initial
> > crutch.  It's almost too hard to put one together yourself without a
> > couple projects under your belt first it seems here initially, and so
> > this would, in my humble opinion, go a long way at offering a personal
> > scaffold to newcomers on which to hang their initial weaknesses.
>
> > Thanks again!
>
> > On May 17, 11:41 am, Owen Dall <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for finding that...
>
> > > -Owen
>
> > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:22 AM, ylluminate <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Gotcha, I had assumed that in the book he had this in dev mode.
> > > > Obviously that's an important note since most ppl running on localhost
> > > > going through the book will see this particular section in dev vs
> > > > production mode.  Will make a note on the ticket over for the book.
>
> > > > On May 17, 9:15 am, Domizio Demichelis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I am not very interested in a generic 404 page when I am developing,
> > so I
> > > > > changed that in development mode. Production will be as the book
> > says.
>
> > > > > ciao
> > > > > dd
>
> > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:12 AM, ylluminate <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I was curious as per the Rapid Rails 3 with Hobo - ß5 release we're
> > > > > > seeing an issue where when it says to try assigning
> > > > > > "auto_actions :index, :show, :create, :edit, :update, :destroy" to
> > > > > > the recipes_controller.rb and then to attempt to view the
> > /recipes/new
> > > > > > url we're supposed to see an error page from Hobo.  This page is
> > > > > > supposed to say "The page you were looking for could not be found"
> > > > > > But instead I'm getting an ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound error
> > output:
> > > > > >http://bit.ly/jlK6EX
>
> > > > > > I was afraid that this had something to do with a recent build and
> > > > > > could be fixed in the RC.  Any ideas as to why this is yielding an
> > > > > > error as such vs the Hobo output in this case?
>
> > > > > > On May 17, 7:42 am, Domizio Demichelis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > 1.3.0.RC is available as a gem, the RC1 is in the rails3 branch.
> > > > Anyway -
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > thi moment - RC1 does not have any significant improvement on a
> > > > working
> > > > > > app
> > > > > > > (just a few commits to avoid seldom installation problems, and
> > > > generators
> > > > > > > with more consistent help files).
>
> > > > > > > ciao
> > > > > > > dd
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:32 AM, ylluminate <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > By the way guys, how do you update to the RC vs the --pre 31
> > > > through
> > > > > > > > the gem?  Are you downloading it from git or is there another
> > > > method
> > > > > > > > to get the rc?
>
> > > > > > > > On May 16, 6:03 pm, Ronny Hanssen <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I just found out that my hobo rich type (Money) based on
> > float no
> > > > > > longer
> > > > > > > > > worked in the RC1 release. It worked in pre28, so sometime
> > > > between
> > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > > releases a change has been made to the source.
>
> > > > > > > > > It failed while trying to display a record (in the
> > show-page).
> > > > The
> > > > > > error
> > > > > > > > > message was a bit vague...:
>
> > > > > > > > > undefined method `name' for nil:NilClass
>
> > > > > > > > > After a little digging i found that the code was failing as
> > it
> > > > tried
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > display the fieldlist. It turns out that my rich types based
> > on
> > > > > > string
> > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > works, whereas my rich types based on float doesn't.
>
> > > > > > > > > The fix for the problem was to add a view tag for this type.
> > > > Meaning
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > rich types may require explicit view-tags, where the Hobo-1.0
> > > > version
> > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > need it. Posting this in case someone else gets similar
> > problems.
> > > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > should also be added to the manual in the rich types section
> > (if
> > > > it
> > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > already there - it's a while since I had a look at it
> > now)...?
>
> > > > > > > > > ~Ronny
>
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