Does anyone know whatever happened to Kitcoder <http://www.kitcoder.com/>? Tom Locke announced it here a couple years back, seemingly as a alpha level piece of software, but since then nothing. I'm not very optimistic at this point, but I sure would like to see something come of that, it looked like a brilliant tool.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM Ed Gomolka <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ignacio: > > That is very welcome news! > > Are there changes that haven't made it into the main Github repository > yet? The last update there was 3 months ago. > Is there something that I can help with? > > Thx, > > Ed > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 11:33:28 PM UTC-6, Ignacio Huerta wrote: >> >> Hi everyone! >> >> Imanol Alvarez and me have worked a bit on upgrading to Rails 5 in the >> last couple of months. The Erubis/ERB issue is now solved, and a few other >> issues are solved. Still, there is work to be done. I hope we make it >> happen :). >> >> Warm regards, >> Ignacio >> >> On 6 June 2018 at 03:38, Ed Gomolka <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I considered Angular, Elm, and React before settling on Vue.js. >>> >>> I did not try using Angular because I got the impression that it would >>> be too restrictive for the hybrid approach that I wanted, and it seemed to >>> have a significant learning curve. I may be doing it an injustice, since I >>> never actually tried it. I experimented directly with Elm, React, and >>> Vue.js. Vue.js struck me as being the simplest to learn and use. Also, it >>> has the reputation of being one of the fastest frameworks available: >>> https://www.stefankrause.net/js-frameworks-benchmark6/webdriver-ts-results/table.html >>> React would have been my second choice. >>> >>> With regard to the problem of impatient agents, you could disable the >>> submit button after the agent presses it, and then re-enable the button >>> when the information comes back from the server. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:24:38 PM UTC-6, donz wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ed, et al! >>>> >>>> I have given up on DRYML and like you I am switching to a TypeScript >>>> framework (Angular 6). The problem I am trying to fix is one of latency. >>>> My daughter owns a real-estate company, and I handle all of her IT needs. >>>> I developed a website that our agents use while on the road. >>>> Unfortunately, once they get into the rural areas, the cell signals are >>>> weak and the connection latency is very high. This totally hoses the >>>> utility of our website. (I have the same problem with other websites, but >>>> not as bad since the clients don't usually leave the suburbs.) >>>> >>>> I ran some experiments with a test website using rails and angular. >>>> While the latency is noticable, it doesn't cripple the app like using hobo >>>> and ajax ( >>>> The agents are impatient and keep clicking away even though the waiting >>>> spinner is showing. The result is a whole bunch of queries in progress >>>> with the results coming back out of order). >>>> >>>> What I need is the ability to use other parts of Hobo. Particularly >>>> the models with incorporated data descriptions and the User model with its >>>> hobo lifecycle (to handle invited users and users who forget their password >>>> - almost all of them at one time or another :-D.) >>>> >>>> I am trying to keep the existing data intact as much as possible. I >>>> was able to download the active database from Heroku and use it to >>>> initialize the database in my test app. Now I am implementing the new >>>> version of the web site one page at a time. Like you found, this is very >>>> time-consuming, but the payoff will be worth it. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/05/2018 07:02 PM, Ed Gomolka wrote: >>>> >>>> I asked a status question a while back. At the time, Ignacio Huerta was >>>> the primary maintainer, and he indicated that he didn't have much time to >>>> do other than fix major bugs. >>>> >>>> I spent a couple of days trying to figure out how upgrade Hobo so that >>>> it could handle Rails 5, but I quickly got lost in the weeds. Looking at my >>>> old notes, some of the issues that I came across were: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Rails 5 forces the use of strong parameters. This was already >>>> deprecated in Rails 4, but Hobo got around it by using the >>>> "protected_attributes" gem; however, that gem won't work under Rails 5. >>>> This means that Hobo and all apps using Hobo need to be changed. >>>> 2. Hobo uses the Erubis ERB template engine to compile the dryml >>>> files, while Rails 5 uses The Erubi engine. The two engines conflict. >>>> 3. Hobo uses "raise_in_transactional_callback", which was >>>> deprecated in Rails 4, and removed in Rails 5. >>>> >>>> I would be interested in helping to upgrade Hobo as a junior partner. I >>>> feel that it would take me much too long on my own. >>>> >>>> In the meantime, I have worked out a plan that allows me to gradually >>>> move off Hobo if necessary. I have a version that runs on top of Rails >>>> 4.2.10, which supports the Webpacker gem, which allows me to run a >>>> JavaScript framework in place of DRYML. The main Hobo repository has the >>>> 4.2.10 specification, which supports Webpacker, but the Hobo 2.2.6 gem >>>> supports an older version of Rails, which does not support Webpacker. >>>> >>>> I am using Vue.js as my JavaScript framework. Whenever I need to touch >>>> a DRYML page, I convert it to Vue.js. The conversion amounts to quite a bit >>>> of work per page.In those cases where I use Vue.js: >>>> >>>> 1. I create new index/show/new/create/destroy methods in place of >>>> the Hobo controller methods. >>>> 2. I use strong parameters in the controllers >>>> 3. I use Pundit for authorization >>>> 4. I write Vue.js components (which amounts to a lot of code) >>>> >>>> Using Vue.js requires a reasonable understanding of the JavaScript >>>> world (node, npm, yarn, etc). Creating the Vue.js pages is much more labor >>>> intensive than using DRYML, but Vue.js is more stable, and faster. It also >>>> gives me more control over the page. >>>> >>>> Hopefully, Hobo will get upgraded, but if it doesn't get upgraded, I >>>> will eventually be able to move off it. By converting the pages as >>>> described above, I will have taken care of everything except for >>>> authentication. Once I have all the pages converted, I will be able to >>>> eliminate Hobo and use Devise for authentication in its place.I am still >>>> hoping that I won't have to do that, but this gives me a plan to execute >>>> on. >>>> >>>> Ed G >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:21:50 PM UTC-6, Daniel M wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good question! >>>>> Same situation here! >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 8:49:39 PM UTC+1, donz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All! >>>>>> >>>>>> It's been a long time ;-). I have been maintaining my websites >>>>>> without >>>>>> updating Ruby or Rails for the past year. Now I need to upgrade and >>>>>> I >>>>>> wonder if Hobo is up to speed with Ruby 2.5.1 and Rails 5.2? >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope everyone has been well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Ziesig >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Hobo Users" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/hobousers. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Hobo Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/hobousers. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> +45 42 997 196 >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hobo Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/hobousers. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- www.MakersToolWorks.com - Tools for Makers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. 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