John, something that convinced me that miz3 wants to be strong was stimulated 
by Josef, who got the FOL prover Vampire to give 1-line proofs of almost all of 
my Tarski miz3 results.  Eventually I tried doing the same in miz3, and I'm 
including my biggest success below.  In about 2 hrs on my fastest machine, with 
a MESON solved at number of over a million, miz3 verified a 1-line proof, where 
my real proof is 8 lines long and took me quite a long time to come up with.  
That's good evidence that even though miz3 may not be super-powerful, it's not 
trying to be weak. 

Josef, it sounds like you're saying that Mizar is intentionally weak, and that 
the reason for weakness is to make it practical to make calls to the huge Mizar 
library.  And so presumably if you make improvements in library calls, then 
Mizar would want to become stronger.  Is that right?  One thing I can't 
understand is how Mizar weakens itself in the first place.  Miz3 is as strong 
as MESON once you take Freek's constant advice and raise the timeout.  I don't 
know much about proof assistants, but it's hard for me to see how Mizar can be 
doing anything that different, and you seemed to say it yourself: [Mizar's] own 
"MESON" - "by".

-- 
Best,
Bill 

horizon := 0;; 
timeout := 8000;;

new_type("point",0);;
new_type_abbrev("point_set",`:point->bool`);;
new_constant("Line",`:point_set->bool`);;

let I1 = new_axiom
  `! A B.  ~(A = B) ==> ?! l. Line l /\  A IN l /\ B IN l`;;

let BiggerThanSingleton_THM = thm `;
  let p be A->bool;
  let x be A;
  assume x IN p     [H1];
  assume ~(p = {x})     [H2];
  thus ? a . a IN p /\ ~(a = x)

  by H1, H2, SING_SUBSET, SUBSET_ANTISYM, SUBSET, IN_SING`;;


let Line01infinity2_THM = thm `;     :: solved at 175,311,305
  let X be point;
  let l m be point_set;
  assume Line l /\ Line m        [H0];
  assume ~(l = m)               [H1];
  assume X IN l /\ X IN m          [H2];
  thus l INTER m = {X}

  by  H0, H1, H2, IN_INTER, BiggerThanSingleton_THM, I1`;;

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