Lobster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 but the disk seek light kept going and i could hear the drive thrashing about as though the entire thing was being scanned (ok, call me paranoid for coming to that conclusion, but that is what it felt like).
 
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You are paranoid!
:-)
 
Yes, you're correct... :)
I think with good personal reason BUT
I feel it is not real . . . (Paranoia is not real after all)
 
 
Yes, it is only imaginary. A good imagination is a terrible thing to waste...on  being paranoid.
 
The usual reason this happens is background tasks (such as defragging)
I have had this and it is very disconcerting NOT KNOWING
I no longer have lights attached to the (almost silent) HD
 
Wow. Good idea. How'd you do that? Unplug the led?
 
 
Sometimes being aware of things makes it worse. Like with my firewall software, when i look at the activity logs, i feel unsettled. At first, i looked at them daily, but was feeling worse from looking at them. Then i looked at them only every couple weeks and that felt better, but then i just turned off the firewall alltogether - system performace was degraded and besides i was on dial up modem then... Anyone patient enough to hack in when i connected at 33.3 was more than welcome to be rewarded for their troubles!
 
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Any gmail users out there have a similar experience, with disk thrashing and unexpected data transferring to google ( or from google ).
 
Thanks in advance for assistance.
 
 
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You read the google gmail agreement
 
Um, er... not exactly the entire thing... my bad.
 
 
and I bet they have authority to be sent anything
and do anything but you have no rights or expectations from them
 
Sounds like the industry standard to me.
Google is losing the plot . . .
but I do not know what is happening - maybe someone can suggest?
 
 
I have only sent 3 messages now with google, all of them tests.
Initially i was concerned about the possibility for intrusiveness, with them scanning the mails and then showing ads on the screen, but i got over that concern. However, if they are scanning a person's hard drive (and not just the mails), i would have a huge problem with that. BUT, i have no knowledge they are doing this, just that one strange experience last night. Google does have their new search product they have announced this week, the one that lets you search your harddrive at the same time you google on the net... i think it is still in beta... maybe they are testing it on gmail customers as part of their beta?
 
I am pleased with google's Picasa software, which is basically a selective search tool - it scans your hard drive for graphics images - jpgs, gifs, etc - it is very fast and very effective. If their hard drive search tool works like that, it will be quite efficient, but there could be privacy concerns.
I do not know what or why this is happening
 
Nor I. What is furthermore odd is that after i noticed the thrashing, i cold booted the laptop. When it came back up, i received an error message about Win Zip - turns out that something had caused WinZip to launch itself and it was building a zip file... perhaps to send itself somewhere? (Go ahead, call me paraoid again.)
 
 
but a similar story will perhaps illustrate the
ludicrous situation . . .
Recently I upgraded some microsoft security patches from the MS site
the first thing these patches seem to have done is reactivate
ports and services that were insecure . . .
 
Thanks MS there is a security problem and YOU ARE IT
 
Incredible! But true.
 
Something similar happened here last night. In the process of still trying to fix the two computers, i uninstalled the firewall totally and cold booted. I then did a full install of the latest version of the same firewall, cold booted again and then launched it. The new version had reimplemented all of my former profile settings and rules. Now, the reason that i uninstalled was that i wanted to flush all of the old settings - my thinking was and is that they were part of the problems. I feel that an uninstall should remove everything OR if it is going to keep settings, it should prompt the user do you want to save your settings. Similarly, on installing the new firewall, it should say something like it's detected an earlier profile, do you wish to use it? So i had to do the uninstall and manually search for anything with the word 'fire' and then try to only remove McAfee components and not FireFox, LOL.
 
What is worse is that the new firewall has phone home embedded... The autoupdate runs all the time UNLESS removed from taskman - no way to turn it off with user configuration.
So my firewall has become one more process sending and receiving unnecessarily and consuming resources... this laptop has only 48 MB RAM and i keep it lean and spare for that reason.
 
or another example a security product that found 8 supposed viruses (false positives)
how were these non-existent viruses to be removed?
- why buy there 'full' product of course
- the product (quite legal - forget the name - is 'legit' -  m m m . . .
 
Gosh, how clever... not.
Or another example there was a time when the best way
of messing your system was to use Norton Utilities (they were good - went bad - now I hear they are on track again)
which sorted some problems but in the process added loads of its own . . .
(PC tools were the same for a while)
 
 
Yes, Norton is maybe implicated in some of the problems on the computer that i still cannot get onto the internet. Will know more later today after i uninstall it and install a different firewall.
 
It is a bit like the American military training the terrorists (OBL was CIA trained) 
who now are causing them problems
 
 
Yeah - what's up with that? We seem to have trained and are still training lots of people around the world.
 
or Buddhists saving us from a Dukkha that we were blissfully unaware of . . .
 
:)
LOL
(more examples on a postcard)
 
:-)
 
I like postcards. People never send postcards with sad messages... and postcard art can be, well "art"
 
 
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love and peace,
joyce
 
PS - I learned something new tonight. Had heard of freeware and shareware, but not until now did i know about postcardware! Tucows explains it like this:
 
"Postcardware is a kind of freeware that requires only that the user send the software author a postcard as payment. This shows the software provider that someone is actually using the software and lets the user thank the provider personally. The postage stamp also indicates where in the world the software is being used."
 
I think that's fun!

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yes a nice idea
corporates are not bad they just work
independently of the original intent (very often)

Good to have a balance

:-)

hope you sort things out

Thank you. Me too.

 

I was working on sending email (to myself as a test) in assembler language
with Shadows help we now have a menued program - BUT it has jumped in size
so have to get it small again . . .

This is amazing to me - and so far over my head. Good for you and Shadow!

Thanks for your help, Lobster.

And, speaking of postcardware, here's a wikiserver that is postcardware. Not sure if it is any good, but sounds interesting (and has adorable bears):

http://www.tinyted.net/eddie/wiki/

Happy Sunday to everyone.

 

love and peace,

joyce

Lobster


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