Thanks Lobster, I'm going to go through this slowly.  It's a pleasure 
to talk with you.  As you may know Jan sultan the owner of the 
sufimystic list decided about a year ago that he didn't want to deal 
with the public so much.  Since then one moderator quit, another went 
into a sulk, Zen is still helping, but mostly I've been dealing with 
the people there.  And it's very hard to just talk to people these 
days.  You ask a question or make a comment & they take it personally 
& blow up on you.
Steve

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Lob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Steve Toth,
> 
> >> You mean like this:
> >> http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/peace_elements/
> >
> >*****Lobster, 
> >     Yes this is very good.
> 
> It may SEEM good but it is not interactive
> - only I have access to it
> 
> Wiki is better - because more access and interactivity is possible
> 
>  
> >> If you right click on this you will see an option to view source 
> >code
> >> that source code can be put in notepad, nvu or dreamweaver
> >> and saved with the name index.html
> >> and then saved in a space that your ISP provides (webspace)
> >
> >*****Here I don't understand much of what you're saying.  It's 
like a 
> >foreign language.  I do see where it says source code, but what is 
a 
> >source code & how can I use it?  I have no idea what notepad, nvu 
or 
> >dreamweaver are.  Why do I want to save this code somewhere & what 
do 
> >you mean by index.html.  It was html that got me lost on 
geocities.  
> >I couldn't figure it out to input anything & didn't know who to 
ask 
> >for a straight answer.
> 
> I understand.
> 
> A web page is just a text file placed on a computer
> 
> the text has tags that tell it that the text is to be made bold 
> 
> <bold>This text will be bold</bold> 
> 
> or that pictures are to be displayed and where they are located
> 
> So the source code is known as HTML - and you have to learn how to 
> read and understand it
> 
> That takes time and experience
> - tutorials are available - do you need a link to one?
> 
> Notepad is a text editor in windows
> click on start
> select run
> type in "notepad"
> (no speech marks)
> and press return
> 
> familiar?
> 
> Nvu is a way of seeing the HTML (text) and the finished output
> - it is free to download and use and highly recommended
> 
> Dreamweaver is the commercial professional equivalent
> 
> This is a URL - A Universal Resource Locatator 
> http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/peace_elements/
> 
> It is a place on a hard drive on a computer
> - that place is a place that my ISP (Internet Service Provider)
> gives me
> 
> In that place I have placed a file called index.html
> when you go to
> 
> http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/peace_elements/
> 
> with your browser
> the browser looks for a file called
> 
> index.htm
> or index.html
> 
> (this index is known as the HOME Page)
> 
> 
>  
> >> That is how you create a web page
> >
> >
> >> 
> >> this is one Joyce did
> >> http://free.hostdepartment.com/k/knowmystery/WebSoupExample3.html
> 
> 
> 
> >*****Thanks for the introduction, but I still have a lot to 
learn.  
> >One thing is that no matter where you put things or what you put 
> >thee, you still have to get people to go there & complete the 
> >circuit.  The way I write, I don't have a lot of control over 
subject 
> >matter.  I depend on my life & my friends to help.
> >Steve
> 
> Blogs have been around awhile - I always found them self indulgent
> http://chronologyprotectionagency.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> Wikis are more interesting
> because people interact
> my favourite is wikipedia
> (however we can not use this effectively for Peace Elements)
> 
> A lot of what can be done is dependent on whether you have free 
dialup
> broadband or whatever.
> 
>   http://www.wikinfo.org/wiki.php?title=Poetry
> 
> 
> >Bless you Lobster
> 
> . . . Steady
> 
> 
> Good luck
> :-)
> 
> 
> Lobster





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