Homenet is concerned with how to make the network in the home work, so what 
would happen today if I took two routers, connected them to two IPv6-enabled 
ISPs, and then connected them to the same LAN in the home? Most residential 
ISPs support source-address filtering today (at least in IPv4, and in every 
IPv6 design I have ever seen), so your #2 seems to be the most likely starting 
point. 

Now the question becomes whether the routers take over and try to keep a single 
prefix within the home and be smart about what traffic goes where, or allow the 
two prefixes to be advertised and punt the multihoming problem to the hosts. If 
we let the hosts handle it, I have to say it is tempting to continuing punting 
the problem up the stack and make this a transport issue rather than an IP 
issue....

- Mark


On Oct 4, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote:

> On 9/21/11 1:19 PM, Ray Hunter wrote:
>> 1) I contend that multi-homing is probably going to become the "norm" in
>> Europe by 2022, due to The European Electricity and Gas Directive. That
>> corresponds at least to picture 4, if not more.
> 
> If we believe that multi-homing will be more common, then I think we need to 
> understand what the constraints are for the multihoming in particular as this 
> relates to walled gardens. I can see many different possibilities, which 
> imply different requirements.
> 
> 1. Just two paths to the Internet; the home gets one PA prefix from each ISP.
> 
> 2. Like #1 but in addition the ISPs run ingress filtering so that the source 
> address in a packet from the home has to match the prefix that ISP delegated.
> 
> 3.  Like #1, but there are QoS guarantees for traffic local to an ISP. Thus a 
> host in the home can connect to foo.ispA.net over either ISP-A or ISP-B, but 
> gets better voice/video quality when doing it over ISP-A's connection.
> 
> 4. Looking up foo.ispA.net works when asking the DNS server at ISP-A, but 
> fails (NXDOMAIN) when asking ISP-B.
> 
> 5. The lookup of foo.ispA.net works over either DNS and returns the same IP 
> address, but fails (due to firewalls) for packets that are sent out via ISP-B.
> 
> 6. The lookup of foo.ispA.net works over either DNS and returns the same IP 
> address, but the application-layer content is completely different (e.g., a 
> "subscriber" view when connecting over the ISP-A connection).
> 
> 7. The lookup of foo.ispA.net returns different IP addresses when asking 
> ISP-A vs. ISP-B.
> 
> 
> Do we really want to solve all those problems in homenet? We can't tell the 
> difference between behavior #1 and #6 at the IP layer.
> 
>   Erik
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