And so is HTIP (ITU G.9973) : http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.9973-201110-P . On 
performance evaluation of topology discovery protocols, see also Erik Diaz 
Castellanos et al, IEEE CCNC 2012: http://goo.gl/ldPZj (here applied to the 
legacy protocols LLTD and LLDP (IEEE 802.1AB) ; not yet to IEEE P1905 or 
G.9973). HGI is requiring topology discovery in their draft standard 
"Requirements for home networks service diagnostics", HGI-
RWD016-R3: http://www.homegateway.org/documents/release_3.asp . 

Kind regards, 

Frank

-----Original Message-----
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Stephen [kiwin] PALM
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:54 AM
To: Brian E Carpenter
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; homenet issue tracker; STARK, 
BARBARA H; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [homenet] #6: Support for arbitrary topologies

IEEE P1905 is one tool that helps in that regard...
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1905/1/

regards, kiwin

On 3/24/2012 1:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Barbara,
>
>
> On 2012-03-25 08:44, STARK, BARBARA H wrote:
>>>> #6: Support for arbitrary topologies
>
> ...
>> I don't think it should be a question of trying to stop anybody from doing 
>> anything. It's a question of what do we want to make easy (via 
>> auto-configuration or minimal configuration like turning something on/off).
> ...
> (Much good sense deleted)
>
>> And my experience with users is that they're thrilled if there is "a" way to 
>> make things work, that's simple and reasonably intuitive. They aren't stuck 
>> on needing all possible ways to work.
>
> I agree entirely, and it's clear that somebody (not necessarily 
> vendors) will need to write a simple guide on ways to connect up your homenet.
> What we should perhaps worry about is tools (beyond classical loop 
> prevention in bridging and routing protocols) to detect broken 
> topologies and tell the user about them in a meaningful way. In other 
> words, instead of "support" arbitrary topologies, "diagnose" 
> unsupported topologies.
>
>      Brian
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