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RJ Atkinson writes:
 
>  
> On 01  Oct 2012, at 15:01 , Curtis Villamizar wrote:
> > You are suggesting if A then !B.  
>  
> No, my apologies for being unclear. 
> I am NOT, repeat NOT, suggesting that.
>  
> (A & !B) is a possible deployment option, of course,
> but it is not the ONLY option either.
>  
> > I prefer if A and B, then C.
>  
> I understand you have a personal preference.
>  
> A set of people on this list have indicated that
> particular preference is strongly undesirable.

I agree that it is *very* undesirable.  It does work.  I've tried it.

> However, disallowing SLAAC is NOT the ONLY conceivable 
> approach.  One ought to try to think of other options
> (each of which probably has different tradeoffs).

AFAIK SLAAC requires a /64 prefix.  Is that not true?  Or are you
suggesting changing it?

> Yours,
>  
> Ran

If A and B, then C is a possibility.

Only if C does SLAAC have to get disabled.  It's not a good option and
not every toy is going to play nice but if it is forced, for some it
may be the best option.  Another option is to use a tunnel rather than
the ISP native IPv6 if the ISP won't allocate prefixes other than /64.

I've had a lengthy off-list discussion with Joel.  There is mixed
response from one MSO, with /128 in a lame limited city trial today,
/64 RSN (for some unspecified value of RSN), and shorter prefix still
later.  Its this sort of preference for a one size fits all least
common denominator at a provider that has me concerned that some
consumers may be stuck with a /64.

It would be helpful if we had a consumer-ISP requirements from some
WG, but homenet might not be the place.  

It may be the homenet can say that in order for things to work in the
home certain things are required of the ISP or highly desireable
(DHCPv6 prefix allocation, DNS and rDNS delegation and secondary, at
least /60 on request and preferably without additional charge, etc).
Would that be out-of-scope for homenet, and if so, in what WG would it
be in-scope?  If none, then can it become in-scope (charter update)?

Curtis


btw- if DHCP is not used, then dynamic DNS has to get popluated
directly from the host and each host needs the key needed to make its
DDNS update (and not someone else's DDNS update) and it also needs to
know where the DDNS server is.  This seems a lot more problematic than
putting DHCPv6 client on the host.  Lack of either means DDNS doesn't
get updated.  Also if DHCPv6 is not used, the domain name, DNS search
list, nameserver list, ntpservers, .. etc, still have to be populated.
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