(I've changed the subject)

Chris Grundemann <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> 1) I would ask the CableLabs guys to more clearly articulate what
    >> their timeline is, and what features are really in that timeline.
    >> (It seems to me that we could be done already if the ISPs pushed
    >> their suppliers of CPE devices to join the homenet WG and participate,
    >> and/or hired proxies and/or open-source authors to act as
    >> intermediaries/consultants. I realize that to first order, CableLabs
    >> *is* fullfulling some of that exact role)

    > The timeline we are working from is ASAP; not having fully functional IPv6
    > capable home routers is currently a significant hurdle to real IPv6
    > adoption in residential broadband networks.

ASAP doesn't tell us what the product lifecycle for the devices that are
going to be produced is.

    > The key features (from my perspective) are very much in line with the
    > homenet architecture documents stated principles, namely basic network
    > detection (where's the Internet), addressing of both end-clients and
    > multiple home routers, routing between in-home CPE (IPv4 and IPv6),
    > routing from in-home CPE to the Internet (IPv4 w/ NAT and IPv6), in-home
    > multicast forwarding (primarily in support of existing service discovery
    > protocols), and basic fire walling (simple security) on the CER.

Not having compared your list to the arch document, I think that the only
thing you left out is multiple ISPs.

    > Within the CableLabs "ecosystem" we are absolutely working with suppliers
    > and have included all of the above key features in the eRouter
    > specification:
    > 
https://www.cablelabs.com/doczone/docsis/requirements/specs/current/issued/
    > erouter/DocZoneFolder_view (the notable exception is edge detection, as

It requires a login.... I've asked for one.

    > currently rely on the inclusion of a Cable Modem (CM) as indication of
    > where the/an ISP is connected to the HIPnet). The HIPnet draft
    > (draft-grundemann-hipnet) is our effort to share what we have already
    > completed with the wider IETF audience.

Okay, so you already have an extra edge detection.
Maybe you can send text for Erik Kline's document.


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