STARK, BARBARA H <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Some ISPs provide their customers with an option of receiving a "basic"
    > (single LAN Ethernet port, no Wi-Fi) CE router that has no
    > firewall. The expectation is that most users who are asking for these
    > routers will put their own router behind the CE router, and this
    > user-supplied interior router (IR) will have whatever firewall the user
    > wants.

    > [Additional info for the curious: The ISP-provided CE router is
    > responsible for all interactions with the ISP network (all DHCP,
    > PPPoE). For IPv4, the ISP-provided router has an IP passthrough
    > function that provides the acquired public IPv4 address to the IR, when
    > the IR does a DHCPv4 request to the CE router. For IPv6, the CE router
    > sub-delegates (IA_PD) from the prefix it got from the ISP. You may
    > wonder why bother with a router; why not just provide a bridged modem?

    > By having it as a router, the device is manageable (it can have its
    > firmware updated, run diagnostics, manage PPPoE credentials that users
    > struggle to remember, etc.), and troubleshooting is simplified because
    > most users can directly connect a PC to the ISP-supplied router when on
    > a help desk call (which results in shorter help desk calls). In other
    > words, the basic CE router has significantly lower operational costs
    > than a bridged modem.]

so this a real layer-3 device, and not just a layer-3 device with layer-3
turned off?  I've never seen such a thing.

And most of the devices I've seen have all of the management functions
(TR-079, etc.), which runs on a seperate "VLAN" (cable) or ?VC (DSL), and
leave the PPPoE to the "IR"

--
Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works
 -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-



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