Thanks for your review Ole.

Cheers
Terry

On 8/07/2015 4:50 am, "Ole Troan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have been selected as the Internet Directorate reviewer for this
>draft. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the
>Internet ADs.
>
>Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Internet ADs,
>it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other
>IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them
>through discussion or by updating the draft.
>
>Document: draft-ietf-homenet-dncp-07.txt
>Reviewer: Ole Troan
>Review Date: July 7 16, 2015
>
>The document now reads much better. I do get the impression that the text
>is
>reverse engineered from code in a few places though.
>
>Given that it is an "Abstract protocol" specification, that must be
>combined with a profile specification to be a fully implementable, it
>is somewhat difficult to predict if the specification is complete or
>not. Juliusz Chroboczek is writing an independent implementation, and
>I'd recommend incorporating the very informative replies the authors have
>made to his
>comments on the homenet list into the document.
>
>General comments:
>=================
>=> Replace no affiliation with "Independent". If that's the case.
>
>=> It is unclear to me how multiple instances of DNCP is run on a
>   link. Is that something that must be specified in the profile
>   document, and each profile must support multiple instances?
>   Given draft-stenberg-shsp, and the way it "hijacks" the HNCP
>   profile, it appears that more formal multiple instance support
>   would be needed.
>
>=> I can't help being left with the impression that fragmentation
>   (section 6.3) is underspecified. Can fragmentation be left out of
>   the protocol for now (and profiles requiring large TLVs can require
>   a transport layer supporting segmentation and reassembly?)
>
>=> I do find the text on transport modes somewhat confusing, U, M+U
>and MulticastListen+U. I'd like to see more descriptive text
>
>Abstract:
>=========
>
>OLD:
>   This document describes the Distributed Node Consensus Protocol
>   (DNCP), a generic state synchronization protocol which uses Trickle
>   and Merkle trees.  DNCP leaves some details unspecified or provides
>   alternative options.  Therefore, only profiles which specify those
>   missing parts define actual implementable DNCP-based protocols.
>
>NEW:
>   This document describes the Distributed Node Consensus Protocol
>   (DNCP), a generic state synchronization protocol that uses Trickle
>   and Merkle trees. DNCP is an abstract protocol, that must be
>   combined with a specific profile to make a complete implementable
>   protocol.
>
>=> The purpose of that change would be to make it clear what this
>is. A framework? A component that protocols can be built out of?
>
>=> Add a reference to Merkle trees?
>
>Section 4.2:
>============
>
>=> This is confusing:
>o If using a stream transport, the TLV MUST be sent at least once,
>  and it SHOULD be sent only once.
>
>OLD:
>*  If only unreliable unicast transport is employed, Trickle state
>   is kept per each peer and it is used to send Network State TLVs
>   every now and then, as specified in Section 4.3.
>
>NEW:
>*  If only unreliable unicast transport is used, Trickle state
>   is kept per peer and it is used to send Network State TLVs
>   intermittently, as specified in Section 4.3.
>
>s/every now and then/now and then/
>
>s/employed/used/
>
>Section 4.3:
>============
>=> reference to rfc6206?
>
>
>   o  the endpoint is in Multicast+Unicast transport mode, in which case
>      the TLV MUST be sent over multicast.
>
>   o  the endpoint is NOT in Multicast+Unicast transport mode, and the
>      unicast transport is unreliable, in which case the TLV MUST be
>      sent over unicast.
>
>=> What do an implementation do if the endpoint is not in M+U
>transport mode, and the unicast transport is reliable?
>
>(I do find the transport modes confusing, and I'm not sure I
>understand the MulticastListen mode).
>
>s/when using also secure unicast/when using secure unicast/
>
>Section 4.4:
>============
>=> What is meant by: "link with shared bandwidth"?
>
>
>  o  Any other TLV: TLVs not recognized by the receiver MUST be
>      silently ignored.
>
>=> doesn't that mean it isn't stored in the Merkle tree? and the
>hashes don't compute?
>
>Section 4.6:
>============
>=> First mention of a topology graph.
>
>Section 5:
>==========
>
>o  Endpoint identifier: the 32-bit opaque value uniquely identifying
>      it within the local node.
>
>=> "it"? I think I'm still confused what is an endpoint, what is a
>peer and what is a node.
>
>o  Range of addresses: the DNCP nodes that are allowed to connect.
>
>=> How does a range of addresses look like and how is it used?
>   I find only one occurence in the document.
>
>Section 6.1:
>============
>   A DNCP profile MAY specify either per-endpoint or per-peer keep-alive
>   support.
>
>=> Again I'm confused over the usage of endpoint versus peer.
>What's the difference between per-peer and per-endpoint keepalives?
>
>Section 6.2:
>============
>s/actually uses/uses/
>
>

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