I played as a sub in San Antonio in 1962-64 and studied with George at U.Texas, 
Austin. He played a single Bb 5 valve Alex and played as well as any Hornist I 
ever heard, The final section of "Ein Heldenleben" was a performance to 
remember.
--
David Parker
Assoc. Prof of Music
Comp/theory
Applied Low Brass
Austin Community College

---- [email protected] wrote: 
> Send Horn mailing list submissions to
>       [email protected]
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>       https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/horn
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>       [email protected]
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>       [email protected]
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Horn digest..."
> 
> 
> Please edit replies to include only relevant text. Please DO NOT include the 
> entire digest in your reply. For more netiquette information, see:
> 
> http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Dudamel, LA Phil, and Mahler 1, live tonight on NPR
>       (John Edwin Mason)
>    2. Cats (The musical) (Donald Huang)
>    3. Re: Cats (The musical) (Steve Haflich)
>    4. unrecorded music (Prof. Michael Enright)
>    5. Re: Cats (The musical) ([email protected])
>    6. Re: Comparison of Holton, Farkas & Merker horns
>       ([email protected])
>    7. Trilling memories (Kent Spielmann)
>    8. NHR  SPAM (Anne Megenity)
>    9. Re: NHR SPAM (Michiel van der Linden)
>   10. Re: Cats (The musical) (Debbie Schmidt)
>   11. Re: NHR SPAM (Anne Megenity)
>   12. Re: Bb Singles Only (Richard)
>   13. Re: Bb Singles Only (Milton Kicklighter)
>   14. Re: Trilling memories (Steve Haflich)
>   15. Re: Bb Singles Only (Reicher, Tom)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:49:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Edwin Mason <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] Dudamel, LA Phil, and Mahler 1, live tonight on
>       NPR
> To: [email protected], Yahoo Horn <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Dudamel?  Dudamania?  Decide for yourselves, cousins.
> 
> You can hear Gustavo Dudamel conduct his first subscription concert as music 
> director of the LA Phil tonight (Thursday) at 10 pm EDT, streaming live on 
> the NPR website.  Music by Adams and Mahler.  (Sorry for the late notice, but 
> I just got the email from NPR.)
> 
> Here's the link:
> 
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113551695&sc=nl&cc=cn-20091008
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yko4nua
> 
> And here's what NPR has to say:
> 
> Gustavo Dudamel... [the] 28-year-old conductor from Venezuela officially 
> takes over the Los Angeles Philharmonic with a gala opening concert that 
> includes a new piece by John Adams, as well as Gustav Mahler's Symphony No. 
> 1.  Hear the concert live from Walt Disney Hall on NPR Music at 10 p.m. ET.
> 
> --John
> 
> *****************************************
> John Edwin Mason
> Documentary and Motor Sports Photography:
> http://www.JohnEdwinMason.com
> Charlottesville and Cape Town
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:01:02 +0000
> From: Donald Huang <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] Cats (The musical)
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>       <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> So I found out a few weeks ago that my school's doing Cats for our spring
> musical and I'm not sure if I should be excited; I'm guessing the horn parts
> should be pretty good considering that Andrew Lloyd Webber composed it. I
> guess my main questions are (1) how are the horn parts in general and (2)
> how many horn parts are there?
> 
> Thanks for satisfying a wee schoolboy's curiosity!
> 
> Donald
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Hello all,
>    So I found out a few weeks ago that my school's doing Cats for our
>    spring musical and I'm not sure if I should be excited; I'm guessing
>    the horn parts should be pretty good considering that Andrew Lloyd
>    Webber composed it. I guess my main questions are (1) how are the horn
>    parts in general and (2) how many horn parts are there?
>    Thanks for satisfying a wee schoolboy's curiosity!
>    Donald
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:18:52 -0700
> From: Steve Haflich <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Cats (The musical)
> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> 
> Donald Huang <[email protected]> wrote:
>    
>    So I found out a few weeks ago that my school's doing Cats for our spring
>    musical and I'm not sure if I should be excited; I'm guessing the horn 
> parts
>    should be pretty good considering that Andrew Lloyd Webber composed it. I
>    guess my main questions are (1) how are the horn parts in general and (2)
>    how many horn parts are there?
> 
> First, I don't actually know anything about the horn parts of this BWay
> musical, but quite possibly there are zero horn parts.  In recent modern
> times musicals are constrained one one side by finances, and on the
> other side by union contracts.  From my unreliable (and perhaps
> out-of-date) Memories (sic) BWay productions are required to employ no
> fewer than 12 musicians.  Since they must pay 12, they are generally
> scored for 12, but rarely more.
> 
> But there may be alternative orchestrations for especially popular
> (another word for "profitable") shows.  I dunno...
> 
> As a personal note, my former roommate from back in the 1970's, an
> occasional horn player but mostly a conductor, spent a great many years
> as the principal conductor of Cats in BWay.  I believe he has conducted
> Memories more times than any other member of our species.  (I mean the
> human species, not the horn player species, most of whom are indeed also
> human.)  This is not something for which he would like to be remembered.
> For him, Cats was a way to work 3-4 services a week earning a living
> wage for NYC, while allowing him to pursue other musical interests as he
> wished.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:38:57 GMT
> From: "Prof. Michael Enright" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] unrecorded music
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <200910090938585.sm01...@[147.8.210.20]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Just an update, I have checked with the relevant?orchestras and was informed 
> that there are no plans at present for the commissioning orchestras to record 
> or release concert recordings of the following horn concertos: Carter 
> (Boston), Adler (Houston), and Jones (Seattle). The contact at Chicago 
> (Williams Concerto) is checking, but nothing definitive yet.?
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Just an update, I have checked with the relevant orchestras and was
>    informed that there are no plans at present for the commissioning
>    orchestras to record or release concert recordings of the following
>    horn concertos: Carter (Boston), Adler (Houston), and Jones (Seattle).
>    The contact at Chicago (Williams Concerto) is checking, but nothing
>    definitive yet.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:21:12 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Cats (The musical)
> To: [email protected],"The Horn List" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>       
> <488914896-1255054870-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-21312153...@bda113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
>       
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> WRONG!!! 
> 
> I played this two years ago and Webber scored it for 3 Horns.  The book is a 
> fun one to play and features some decent upper register work in the first 
> horn book. The first part on Scimbleshanks reaches a high B. 
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Walt Lewis 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Steve Haflich
> Sender: [email protected]
> To: The Horn List
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> ReplyTo: The Horn List
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Cats (The musical)
> Sent: Oct 8, 2009 8:18 PM
> 
> Donald Huang <[email protected]> wrote:
>    
>    So I found out a few weeks ago that my school's doing Cats for our spring
>    musical and I'm not sure if I should be excited; I'm guessing the horn 
> parts
>    should be pretty good considering that Andrew Lloyd Webber composed it. I
>    guess my main questions are (1) how are the horn parts in general and (2)
>    how many horn parts are there?
> 
> First, I don't actually know anything about the horn parts of this BWay
> musical, but quite possibly there are zero horn parts.  In recent modern
> times musicals are constrained one one side by finances, and on the
> other side by union contracts.  From my unreliable (and perhaps
> out-of-date) Memories (sic) BWay productions are required to employ no
> fewer than 12 musicians.  Since they must pay 12, they are generally
> scored for 12, but rarely more.
> 
> But there may be alternative orchestrations for especially popular
> (another word for "profitable") shows.  I dunno...
> 
> As a personal note, my former roommate from back in the 1970's, an
> occasional horn player but mostly a conductor, spent a great many years
> as the principal conductor of Cats in BWay.  I believe he has conducted
> Memories more times than any other member of our species.  (I mean the
> human species, not the horn player species, most of whom are indeed also
> human.)  This is not something for which he would like to be remembered.
> For him, Cats was a way to work 3-4 services a week earning a living
> wage for NYC, while allowing him to pursue other musical interests as he
> wished.
> _______________________________________________
> post: [email protected]
> unsubscribe or set options at 
> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:29:51 GMT
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Comparison of Holton, Farkas & Merker horns
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> Howard wrote: 
> 
> <<The 176, however, was quite a different story. I thought it sounded great, 
> was very well balanced between registers and the sides of the horn, very 
> responsive, with no bad notes, and with good intonation. It reminded me in 
> some ways of a Lawson Classical. Not as good as the Lawson, but also a whole 
> lot cheaper and no wait. If it had been a screw bell, I would have whipped 
> out the old plastic and taken it home then and there; some days I still 
> regret not having done so anyway.>>
> 
> I have to second what Howard says about the H-176 (H-276 cut bell).  I'm so 
> happy I got mine when I did.  I'll be ever grateful to the 2 professional 
> horn players who encouraged me to try it.   I'm no horn expert.  I've owned 
> (or leased) six different horns and tried out literally dozens of others, 
> including the uber expensive ones.  I have never found one that I could play 
> any better than my Merker.  (That's not to say that someone else couldn't 
> play them better, just not me!  ha ha!)  Howard is right about the 
> intonation.  The thing I like best, however, is how easy it is to play.  I 
> can play it for a long time w/o getting tired because it simply takes less 
> energy.  I guess that means it has a "good response?"     
> 
> Valerie Wells
> "The Balanced Embouchure" for French Horn
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
> Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsEGrDtDymNBfl2ESEzqzSu20p2JBCHa9KfGYQs3nX1x2v4gfe2iyM/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kent Spielmann <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] Trilling memories
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I must have fallen asleep with the radio on. I was maybe 15, a budding 
> hornist, growing up in Southern California. (Do any of you remember KFAC 
> classical, both AM and FM?. So sad how the station left the air) 
> 
> I woke in the wee hours  to a piece of romantic orchestral music festooned 
> with horn trills. They kept coming, one after the other, played by multiple 
> horns it seems. I was enthralled. But it was late. I must have fallen back 
> asleep. I never found out what the piece was.
> 
> This memory remains pungent though. At times I wonder if it was just teenage 
> hormones playing tricks on me.  I had a notion early on  that it must have 
> been Mahler. Not any of the popular symphonies 1, 4, or 5, to be sure. One of 
> the really long ones that I always seem to fall asleep in the middle of. But 
> listen though I might, I have never again heard the trilling call of the horn 
> as I did that night. 
> 
> I would  be ever so grateful if the cornological magisterium represented by 
> this list would help me unravel this mystery which has haunted me for about 
> 35 years.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> K. Spielmann
> -------------- next part --------------
>    I must have fallen asleep with the radio on. I was maybe 15, a budding
>    hornist, growing up in Southern California. (Do any of you remember
>    KFAC classical, both AM and FM?. So sad how the station left the air)
>    I woke in the wee hours  to a piece of romantic orchestral music
>    festooned with horn trills. They kept coming, one after the other,
>    played by multiple horns it seems. I was enthralled. But it was late. I
>    must have fallen back asleep. I never found out what the piece was.
>    This memory remains pungent though. At times I wonder if it was just
>    teenage hormones playing tricks on me.  I had a notion early on  that
>    it must have been Mahler. Not any of the popular symphonies 1, 4, or 5,
>    to be sure. One of the really long ones that I always seem to fall
>    asleep in the middle of. But listen though I might, I have never again
>    heard the trilling call of the horn as I did that night.
>    I would  be ever so grateful if the cornological magisterium
>    represented by this list would help me unravel this mystery which has
>    haunted me for about 35 years.
>    Any suggestions?
>    K. Spielmann
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:30:11 -0400
> From: "Anne Megenity" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] NHR  SPAM
> To: <[email protected]>,   "The Horn List" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <4ff87406b631455fbdec164c4cce5...@df3ff5c1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
>   This morning  I received email from both HORN LISTS which were complete 
> SPAM, totally unrelated to anything "horn" but intended to sell a product and 
> from someone who appears regularly on the two lists. That person shall remain 
> nameless- however- the BIG question is how they got our email URLs? Plus,of 
> course, this practice is totally unacceptable. I've been a "lister" for many, 
> many years and this is a "first"..and hopefully a "last".
> -------------- next part --------------
>      This morning  I received email from both HORN LISTS which were
>    complete SPAM, totally unrelated to anything "horn" but intended to
>    sell a product and from someone who appears regularly on the two lists.
>    That person shall remain nameless- however- the BIG question is how
>    they got our email URLs? Plus,of course, this practice is totally
>    unacceptable. I've been a "lister" for many, many years and this is a
>    "first"..and hopefully a "last".
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:25:34 +0200
> From: Michiel van der Linden <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR SPAM
> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>       <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> With spam mails it is usually the case that the "sender" you see is
> not the place the mail originated but just a randomly harvested
> address.
> The actual sender will be a computer hijacked with a malware and/or
> virus infection in the posession of some unsuspecting random person,
> who is probably not at all connected to the hornlists.
> I din't recieve any spam from the list, so it probably didn't come
> through that route.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:30, Anne Megenity <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ? ? This morning ?I received email from both HORN LISTS which were
> > ? complete SPAM, totally unrelated to anything "horn" but intended to
> > ? sell a product and from someone who appears regularly on the two lists.
> > ? That person shall remain nameless- however- the BIG question is how
> > ? they got our email URLs? Plus,of course, this practice is totally
> > ? unacceptable. I've been a "lister" for many, many years and this is a
> > ? "first"..and hopefully a "last".
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > post: [email protected]
> > unsubscribe or set options at 
> > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/corbasse%40gmail.com
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:29:00 -0400
> From: Debbie Schmidt <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Cats (The musical)
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Cc: The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=us-ascii;       format=flowed;  
> delsp=yes
> 
> Original B'way show had 2 horns and 21-23 people in the pit .
> 
> Shows get reorchestrated for the road and for a variety or reuses ...  
> High school productions , larger market houses smaller houses so  
> numbers change. Although, there is a reorchestration with 3 horns the  
> WW doubling books will be cut and reworked.
> 
> I have no idea where the number 12 came from nor why you think  
> different shows popularity would affect the number of people in the pit.
> 
> The minimum number of total players is based on house size with a  
> special needs clause. Minimum now is around 18 in most larger theaters.
> 
> Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Steve Haflich <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Donald Huang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >   So I found out a few weeks ago that my school's doing Cats for our  
> > spring
> >   musical and I'm not sure if I should be excited; I'm guessing the  
> > horn parts
> >   should be pretty good considering that Andrew Lloyd Webber  
> > composed it. I
> >   guess my main questions are (1) how are the horn parts in general  
> > and (2)
> >   how many horn parts are there?
> >
> > First, I don't actually know anything about the horn parts of this  
> > BWay
> > musical, but quite possibly there are zero horn parts.  In recent  
> > modern
> > times musicals are constrained one one side by finances, and on the
> > other side by union contracts.  From my unreliable (and perhaps
> > out-of-date) Memories (sic) BWay productions are required to employ no
> > fewer than 12 musicians.  Since they must pay 12, they are generally
> > scored for 12, but rarely more.
> >
> > But there may be alternative orchestrations for especially popular
> > (another word for "profitable") shows.  I dunno...
> >
> > As a personal note, my former roommate from back in the 1970's, an
> > occasional horn player but mostly a conductor, spent a great many  
> > years
> > as the principal conductor of Cats in BWay.  I believe he has  
> > conducted
> > Memories more times than any other member of our species.  (I mean the
> > human species, not the horn player species, most of whom are indeed  
> > also
> > human.)  This is not something for which he would like to be  
> > remembered.
> > For him, Cats was a way to work 3-4 services a week earning a living
> > wage for NYC, while allowing him to pursue other musical interests  
> > as he
> > wished.
> > _______________________________________________
> > post: [email protected]
> > unsubscribe or set options at 
> > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/jasoncat%40aol.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:31:33 -0400
> From: "Anne Megenity" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR SPAM
> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <43163a7279c54c38afd22386d9066...@df3ff5c1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
> 
>  Forgot to mention that the subject line was "FOR GIRLS ONLY" so possibly 
> was gender specific as to who received it?  Can a computer do that?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michiel van der Linden" <[email protected]>
> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR SPAM
> 
> 
> With spam mails it is usually the case that the "sender" you see is
> not the place the mail originated but just a randomly harvested
> address.
> The actual sender will be a computer hijacked with a malware and/or
> virus infection in the posession of some unsuspecting random person,
> who is probably not at all connected to the hornlists.
> I din't recieve any spam from the list, so it probably didn't come
> through that route.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:30, Anne Megenity <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This morning I received email from both HORN LISTS which were
> > complete SPAM, totally unrelated to anything "horn" but intended to
> > sell a product and from someone who appears regularly on the two lists.
> > That person shall remain nameless- however- the BIG question is how
> > they got our email URLs? Plus,of course, this practice is totally
> > unacceptable. I've been a "lister" for many, many years and this is a
> > "first"..and hopefully a "last".
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > post: [email protected]
> > unsubscribe or set options at 
> > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/corbasse%40gmail.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> post: [email protected]
> unsubscribe or set options at 
> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/amegenity%40comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:16:09 -0500
> From: Richard <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> thatador wrote:
> 
> Please pardon my ignorance, but I live in the US, where triple horns are 
> abundant but single Bb horns are shunned. With as much objectivity as 
> possible, what really healthy-sounding, responsive four-valve Bb horns are 
> highly regarded in more enlightened parts of this planet?
> 
> -------
> 
> I was involved in a performance of the Schumann Konzertstueck in which 
> Gail Williams played the first part on a single Bb, possibly by Carl 
> Geyer. In my own experience, for smaller ensembles, most single Bb horns 
> work well, if you are skilled at playing them. Since their construction 
> is relatively simple, they don't have as many of the tuning quirks that 
> double horns do.
> 
> That said, I like the Yamaha YHR-321 about as well as any I've ever 
> played. For the last couple of years Bruce Tubbs (frugal [email protected]) 
> has been making very nice 5 valve Bb horns out of Yamaha YHR-321's, 
> YHR-322's and King 1158's. He had at least one for sale on 
> hornplayer.net, last time I looked.
> 
> Richard Hirsh, Chicago
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:50:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
> To: [email protected], The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I was in the San Antonio Symphony in 1964, and the first horn.... George 
> Yaeger.... play a five valve single Bb Alex.? He had one of the most 
> beautiful sounds I have ever heard.? As I understand it he had always played 
> a single Bb, and for me.... I had been playing a Conn 8d.... dispelled the 
> believe that in order to have a big dark sound, one had to play on a big horn 
> and on the F side.? 
> ?
> I will always remember George and how his sound simply floated out to ever 
> corner of the big hall.? The orchestra played in the convention center.? 
> ?
> Milton
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Richard <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 9:16 AM
> 
> 
> thatador wrote:
> 
> Please pardon my ignorance, but I live in the US, where triple horns are 
> abundant but single Bb horns are shunned. With as much objectivity as 
> possible, what really healthy-sounding, responsive four-valve Bb horns are 
> highly regarded in more enlightened parts of this planet?
> 
> -------
> 
> I was involved in a performance of the Schumann Konzertstueck in which 
> Gail Williams played the first part on a single Bb, possibly by Carl 
> Geyer. In my own experience, for smaller ensembles, most single Bb horns 
> work well, if you are skilled at playing them. Since their construction 
> is relatively simple, they don't have as many of the tuning quirks that 
> double horns do.
> 
> That said, I like the Yamaha YHR-321 about as well as any I've ever 
> played. For the last couple of years Bruce Tubbs (frugal [email protected]) 
> has been making very nice 5 valve Bb horns out of Yamaha YHR-321's, 
> YHR-322's and King 1158's. He had at least one for sale on 
> hornplayer.net, last time I looked.
> 
> Richard Hirsh, Chicago
> _______________________________________________
> post: [email protected]
> unsubscribe or set options at 
> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
>       
> -------------- next part --------------
> 
>     I was in the San Antonio Symphony in 1964, and the first horn....
>     George Yaeger.... play a five valve single Bb Alex.  He had one of the
>     most beautiful sounds I have ever heard.  As I understand it he had
>     always played a single Bb, and for me.... I had been playing a Conn
>     8d.... dispelled the believe that in order to have a big dark sound,
>     one had to play on a big horn and on the F side.
> 
>     I will always remember George and how his sound simply floated out to
>     ever corner of the big hall.  The orchestra played in the convention
>     center.
> 
>     Milton
>     --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>       From: Richard <[email protected]>
>       Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
>       To: [email protected]
>       Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 9:16 AM
> 
>     thatador wrote:
>     Please pardon my ignorance, but I live in the US, where triple horns
>     are abundant but single Bb horns are shunned. With as much objectivity
>     as possible, what really healthy-sounding, responsive four-valve Bb
>     horns are highly regarded in more enlightened parts of this planet?
>     -------
>     I was involved in a performance of the Schumann Konzertstueck in which
>     Gail Williams played the first part on a single Bb, possibly by Carl
>     Geyer. In my own experience, for smaller ensembles, most single Bb
>     horns
>     work well, if you are skilled at playing them. Since their construction
>     is relatively simple, they don't have as many of the tuning quirks that
>     double horns do.
>     That said, I like the Yamaha YHR-321 about as well as any I've ever
>     played. For the last couple of years Bruce Tubbs (frugal
>     [1][email protected])
>     has been making very nice 5 valve Bb horns out of Yamaha YHR-321's,
>     YHR-322's and King 1158's. He had at least one for sale on
>     hornplayer.net, last time I looked.
>     Richard Hirsh, Chicago
>     _______________________________________________
>     post: [2][email protected]
>     unsubscribe or set options at
>     [3]https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgte
>     r%40yahoo.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://us.mc357.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]
>    2. http://us.mc357.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]
>    3. 
> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:12:52 -0700
> From: Steve Haflich <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trilling memories
> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> 
> Could be Mahler 9 movement 2.
> 
> Score is online at imslp.org
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:49:24 -0700
> From: "Reicher, Tom" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>       <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
>  Interesting to note that Yaeger studied at Eastman with Yegudkin (teacher of 
> John Barrows).  Did his floating sound have a hint of vibrato?  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Milton Kicklighter
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:51 AM
> To: [email protected]; The Horn List
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
> 
> I was in the San Antonio Symphony in 1964, and the first horn.... George 
> Yaeger.... play a five valve single Bb Alex.? He had one of the most 
> beautiful sounds I have ever heard.? As I understand it he had always played 
> a single Bb, and for me.... I had been playing a Conn 8d.... dispelled the 
> believe that in order to have a big dark sound, one had to play on a big horn 
> and on the F side.? 
> ?
> I will always remember George and how his sound simply floated out to ever 
> corner of the big hall.? The orchestra played in the convention center.? 
> ?
> Milton
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Richard <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bb Singles Only
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 9:16 AM
> 
> 
> thatador wrote:
> 
> Please pardon my ignorance, but I live in the US, where triple horns are 
> abundant but single Bb horns are shunned. With as much objectivity as 
> possible, what really healthy-sounding, responsive four-valve Bb horns are 
> highly regarded in more enlightened parts of this planet?
> 
> -------
> 
> I was involved in a performance of the Schumann Konzertstueck in which Gail 
> Williams played the first part on a single Bb, possibly by Carl Geyer. In my 
> own experience, for smaller ensembles, most single Bb horns work well, if you 
> are skilled at playing them. Since their construction is relatively simple, 
> they don't have as many of the tuning quirks that double horns do.
> 
> That said, I like the Yamaha YHR-321 about as well as any I've ever played. 
> For the last couple of years Bruce Tubbs (frugal [email protected]) has been 
> making very nice 5 valve Bb horns out of Yamaha YHR-321's, YHR-322's and King 
> 1158's. He had at least one for sale on hornplayer.net, last time I looked.
> 
> Richard Hirsh, Chicago
> _______________________________________________
> post: [email protected]
> unsubscribe or set options at 
> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may 
> contain confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, 
> use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If you are not the intended 
> recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of 
> the original message.  If you are the intended recipient, please be advised 
> that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure 
> by the sender's Email System Administrator. 
> 
> IRS Circular 230 disclosure:  To ensure compliance with requirements imposed 
> by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this 
> communication (including any attachment) is not intended or written by us to 
> be used, and cannot be used, (i) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding 
> tax penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) for promoting, 
> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter 
> addressed herein.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> post: [email protected]
> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/horn
> 
> End of Horn Digest, Vol 82, Issue 9
> ***********************************

_______________________________________________
post: [email protected]
unsubscribe or set options at 
https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Reply via email to