I've read the later posts in this digest and this is in response to those  
as well without quoting all.
 
William, I don't think it is all luck.  Yes, some people get more  
opportunities than others.  I will say this, I listened to thousands of  
professional audition candidates in my career.  Most were well educated, at  
least 
looking at their resumes and I would think they had put in their 10,000  hours. 
 
Many, though, are lacking in the skills needed to hold down a 52  week 
major job.  They might find other spots in the business, though, and  
eventually 
have success if they improved certain things in their playing.   Your 
opinion about "very capable" and "mediocre" players is noted but I  wonder if 
you 
really know what it takes.  There is less opportunity now  than ever to 
find work.  But, this has always been a tough business.   In the '60's, when I 
was a student, I would judge that about 10% of performance  trained 
musicians eventually found full time performance jobs.  I would say  now that 
number 
is more like 5%.  Not just horn, but everybody.  There  are more schools 
now cranking out "performance majors" and less living wage work  both full 
contract and freelance.  Those who are "the best" and persevere  do find stuff 
eventually.  It takes them longer, though.
 
When I was in HS and studying with Ward Fearn, I once commented to him that 
 I would someday like to play as well as he did.  He said, "As well as  is 
not good enough.  The whole idea is to get better than everybody  else."  
When I started college, I went to two schools, both excellent,  pursuing two 
degrees because I was not sure I would "make it" in the music  business at 
the highest levels.  Opportunity came my way, for whatever  reasons, and I was 
making a living playing the horn when I was 18.   By age 20, I had dropped 
academic studies as I was confident of a musical  career and too busy to 
study effectively for my classes at Penn.  I put off  major auditions, though, 
until my senior year because I felt the training at  Curtis was more 
valuable.  Also, we were all looking at mandatory military  service in those 
days 
and school kept you out of that until you graduated.   With solid training, a 
lot of practicing, freelance performance opportunities  (experience such as 
playing extra and subbing with Philly), I won my first major  audition.  
There are "stars" doing that today as well.  Jen Montone  and Jesse McCormick 
come to mind.  I know, and have taught, others, though,  who have not made 
"the big leagues" until after 25 auditions or more over a ten  year period.
 
Anton Horner once said "There are two types of horn players and it's not  
high and low.  It's good and bad."  In those days, "good" horn players  got 
professional work and "bad" ones did not.  Now, I think you  have to add the 
category "great," at least compared to the former "good," due to  the fact 
that there are less opportunities.
 
I encourage all but a few students to have a back up plan and continue to  
enrich themselves academically or technically in other fields.  You need  
talent, good instruction, experience and opportunity over your 10,000  hours.  
And who knows for sure about that number.  I never really kept  track and I 
think most people don't.  Playing the horn, or doing anything  challenging 
for that matter, is a daily event, and must be done with  dedication.
 
Back to mangling metal.
 
KB
 
William writes:
 
You have  to put luck into it as well - especially now since there are more 
  
qualified applicants than there are available jobs. Any time that  happens, 
 
politics, luck, and being in the right place at the right  time (or right  
audition) can make a new career for someone or send  them packing to the 
next  
audition.

I know of some very good  and very capable players who aren't getting jobs  
and mediocre  players who are. I also know of those same capable players 
who 
are   barely making an income above the poverty line with the Horn. 

I had no  patience for that so I traded being an amateur horn player for a  
 
stable career. And when I think about how much time and money I'd have to  
spend  to even become semi-pro (if it's in my grasp), I get  discouraged. 
I've 
gotten  used to a stable income and I don't think I  could ever go back 
into 
a lifestyle  of student loans and accelerated  debt.

-William


In a message dated 3/17/2010 2:26:47 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

We had  a  discussion on this at KBHC last summer and it seemed to be true  
 
for  the professionals.  In my own case, I had about 2,500 hours  of horn   
practice/lessons when i joined the union and started  playing  
professionally as a 
free-lancer.  But, add in piano  study and  practice, theory and ear  
training, band and  orchestra experience  that figures to about 7,500 hours 
of   
music at that point.  Add  the 3 years of study after that at  Curtis,  
plus 
more 
experience both  at school and  professionally, I had well over 10,000  
hours 
by the  time I  won my first position in Pittsburgh my senior year.   Music 
  
is 
a life long and life consuming profession and I don't think  there  are  
any 
short cuts.

KB


In a message  dated  3/17/2010 1:02:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,    
[email protected] writes:

A tidbit  from the   web:


So what?s the crucial factor?
One
of the   
most  significant factors is what scientists call the  "10,000-hour   rule."
When we look at any kind of cognitively  complex field -- for   example, 
playing chess, writing fiction  or being a neurosurgeon -- we  find  that 
you are unlikely to  master it unless you have practiced  for 10,000  
hours. That?s  20 hours a week for 10 years. The brain  takes that long   to
assimilate all it needs to know to achieve true   mastery.

-Steve    Mumford

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