As Beethoven no.7 is more or less a 2nd valve issue on the Bb-horn, 
it is necessary to have the 2nd valve tuned at best.
The written g does not count in this symphony either.
Did you ever hear about the right hand in the bell, what you can do with it ?

This is the better solution by far.

Any lipping-up or lipping-down will destroy the tone quality, while right hand 
use in the bell, 
- subtle use of the hand, off course -, will not change the tonal quality.

Farkas meant, that lipping-up creates a pinching sound, while
lipping-down would create a rather relaxed tone.

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Am 28.03.2010 um 23:15 schrieb valerie wells:

> I remember reading and/or hearing from somewhere, someone that Philip Farkas
> said that "lipping down" produces a better tone on an instrument than
> "lipping up," so if you tune your instrument a little on the higher side,
> you'll sound better overall than if you do it the other way.  No where is
> this better demonstrated than on my little screaming Bb, which I'm becoming
> more & more attached to.  I'm going to be using it to play asst. 1st on
> Beet-7 and the first line E was flat so I was lipping it up.  It sounded
> horrid.  I retuned the horn, making the whole thing a little sharper and
> adjusting the valve slides as well.  Now I'm no longer lipping the first
> line E upwards, but actually a little downwards and it sounds way better.
> I think I know what Farkas meant.  And, BTW, the flat second line G isn't so
> troublesome anymore because I'm not trying to lip it up so much.
> 
> Valerie Wells
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