Also directed to Valerie & others: how about the tone quality & color, if the right hand goes further into the bell ?? Muffled sound preferred, perhaps ??? Did you read what I said about tuning both sides of the double ? Not understood perhaps.
If the Bb-side is not tuned right, the pitches cannot "pop" out in the right way, as the player is trying permanently to lower the otherwise too high pitches, resulting in a most uncentered sound. That´s the problem. How does the F-side behave, if the right hand is too far in ??? Remember "Gerald Hoffnungs horn player with the tumb coming out of the mouthpiece ......." ##################################################################### Am 23.01.2011 um 19:34 schrieb Dan Beeker: > Valerie, > Indeed, at least for a Conn 8d, putting the hand further in the bell > does increase the amplitude of the resonant peaks in the higher > register. John Backus did some research back in the seventies using a > Conn 8d on this. I would suspect other horns behave the same way to > varying degrees though perhaps with newer horns ways have been found to > raise the impedance of the higher harmonics through changing the > acoustic shape of the horn so less hand motion is needed on newer > horns. Having played exclusively on older horns - Alexanders, Conns and > a smattering of Bessons etc, I can't really say much about newer model > horns. Perhaps others have someting to say about this. A good > discussion and some graphs of this effect that is available online can > be found at > online.physics.uiuc.edu/courses/phys193/NSF.../adamwatts_thesis.pdf. > I don't agree with quite everything that is said in the thesis but in > general what is said is reasonably valid. > Dan Beeker > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:32:05 -0800 > From: valerie wells [1]<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Right Arm > To: horn list 2 memphis [2]<[email protected]> > Message-ID: > [3]<[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Wendell, have you found the use of hand in bell for centering upper register > notes more important with certain horn types? I saw a master class taught > by Gail Williams. The student playing an 8D and was struggling with the > upper register. When Gail had her "use more hand" in the bell the upper > notes popped right out. The difference was so dramatic, it looked almost > "staged" but I doubt it was. I haven't personally found such a dramatic > difference in hand use for centering the upper register of the horns I've > played (Yamaha 667, Holton 179, Holton Merker with medium, and Holton Merker > with large bell throat). > > What say you? > > Valerie Wells > ---------------- > > > > -- > Dan Beeker > > References > > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. mailto:[email protected] > 3. mailto:[email protected] > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
