Chris, stopped notes below staff are nonsense anyway. Composers might use them very rarely for a special effect. But many modern composer are in fond of such special effects. Their music sounds like reading a phone directory: far too many effects, but no story ......
Wagner, Strauss, Mahler, Debussy, Ravel & some fine sound track composers knew very well, how to use them without the need for the players to sacrifice themselves. And these composers used them well thought. Nobody will check, how you produce the desired sound, if you can produce it well. Nobody will check your hand before or after. You can camouflage around as you like. You can betray composer & conductor as you like, by just playing the sound they want, but CONVINCING. Nobody will care about your personal technique. I used the conical mute for the lower gestopft notes, but levered it a bit out of the bell & played the note with a bit of "stressed embouchure", producing that squeezy sound, and a little more air push than usual did the rest. There are more than one ways to Tipperary. You just have to find the right one. ########################################################################################## Am 12.04.2011 um 21:03 schrieb Chris Wilhjelm: > > Clearly it does matter. Stopping even really low notes on my Alex 103 is a > walk in the park compared to my 8D which is nearly impossible much below the > staff. It is also much easier to move in and out of the bell a bit to adjust > the pitch. > > I would also like to take this time to thank all of you on the list for not > taking this discussion in an unfortunate direction. > > c > > > >>>> Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> 4/12/2011 2:03 PM >>> > I to have a small hand and have a difficult time stopping some notes. And I > DO > THINK that the size of the hand makes a difference. > > Milton > Milton Kicklighter > 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic > Retired > > > > > ________________________________ > From: valerie wells <[email protected]> > To: horn list 2 memphis <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 1:48:27 PM > Subject: [Hornlist] Stopped horn, bell throat & hand size > > I loved my Holton Merker 276, but didn't enjoy the screw bell hassle. > A few years later, I found another Holton Merker (183) with a fixed > bell and eventually decided I liked it better than my first Merker. > So I sold my first beautiful rose bronze Merker. > > The newer Holton 183 is a medium bell throat, yellow brass horn. I've > owned four horns previously, and this is the first on which I can > successfully play stopped horn with my own small hand consistently > transposing to E horn (on the F side). I find it a big relief that I > don't have to use the brass stopper for quick change muted notes > anymore. > > Several people told me years ago that hand size was not likely a > factor in my inability to play stopped horn with my own hand. They > insisted it was a matter of proper technique, etc. I strongly > disagree. I can make the transition to and from stopped horn in a > nano-second on this horn, but never could on my other horns. With the > larger bell throat horns, I had to find an alternate fingering for > most stopped notes to sound in tune. Preparing a passage for > performance was time consuming, so when ever time permitted, I used a > brass stop mute. > > When it comes to playing stopped horn naturally, I believe a proper > match between hand and bell throat size is important. > > Valerie > -- > Valerie Wells > The Balanced Embouchure Method > http://bebabe.wordpress.com/ > http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
