No one's mentioned the Paxman compensating triple - I know a couple of
people who play it and really like it - is the Schmid that much
lighter, e.g., you could tell the difference in weight in a blind
test?

-S_

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Brass Arts Unlimited
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dan wrote: "In my search for the lightest triple horn, I am thinking of
> getting an Engelbert Schmid compensating triple F/Bb/f.  Does anyone have
> experience with these or can tell me if they have any particular problems?
> I like my standard Schmid F/Bb/f triple very much, and this one is about 15%
> lighter."
>
> Dan, while I have never weighed one, I have worked on many Englebert Schmid
> horns and I can say with certainty that part for part, horn versus horn, it
> is the lightest horn made.  If you are comparing a double to a Schmid
> double, the Schmid double will weigh less each and every time.  Same thing
> for the triple horns.  Englebert has taken every spare gram of metal off of
> his instruments.  The construction is as light as it can be without
> compromising structural integrity.  It is my opinion that this is the reason
> his triple horns are so popular in the US, because they don't weigh much
> more than most double horns.
>
> As for particular problems, I can tell what I've seen in my repair shop,
> which is that you have to oil these horns on a regular schedule because of
> the cylindrical rotor facings.  (The bearings are tapered.)  You shouldn't
> really skip the oiling.  And, I've seen some of the older horns with
> problems regarding the lever spatulas coming unsoldered from the rest of the
> lever.  Those spatulas were soft-soldered, not brazed.  I do not know if he
> currently brazes the lever spatulas to the rest of the mechanism.  On the
> triple horns you have a dual change valve system, and those valves have to
> be strung just so so that the rotor stops freely move all the way through
> the rotation to the bumpers on both valves.  The long tuning slides should
> be greased regularly because you definitely do not want those getting stuck
> in place.  That's about it as far as any concerns I've seen in my own shop.
> A well maintained horn of any quality manufacture should never have
> problems, and the Schmids are no exception.
>
> --
> *Regards,
>
> Dave Weiner
> Brass Arts Unlimited*
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