Wendell, I have just been watching your video on stopping notes with the tongue. I must say the way you do it.... and you would have to show me in more detail.... there is not that very unpleasant TUT sound that you would normally get by stopping the note with the tongue. You illustrate that very bad TUT sound very well in the beginning of the video. I guess my question is: Why would you not start a student tonguing in the traditional way first? I could see that if there is a problem with tongueing one might want to go try something else. I think I understood you to say that you started with the SWT method first and just didn't change. How do you think you might have progressed if you had learned the traditional way? Did you use the SWT method because you had a problem or was that the method your teacher taught? The sound you get when you use your method is certainly ok and doesn't have any of that bad TUT problem. I did try a little using toot and tut. I found that when using toot the tip of the tongue was farther back from the upper teeth than when using tut, and did not produce a ugly ending. Very interesting. I do think that most people thought... as did I... that the SWT method would create the nasty TUT sound that you illustrate in the beginning of your video. And without the proper instruction, I think that is the sound that most people would get when using the SWT method. For that reason alone... proper instruction... I don't think I would ever start a student using that method. There is an older recording out there of one of the great orchestral horn players that illustrates this point very well. Jimmy Chambers play-es the horn. Jimmy is gone now so I don't think he would mind me bringing this up and since I have always admired him as one of the really great orchestral horn players, I think I can be forgiven for saying this. His tonguing on that recording sort of reminds me of what I think a machine gun would sound like on the battle field, and I think that kind of sound is what most of us visualize when we think of SWT playing. I plan to fool around with it a little and I will let you know what I think. That is if I can make it work for me. Since I don't have to "perform" any more, it might be fun to try out something new. Regards.
Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired From: Wendell Rider <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 1:25 PM >Subject: [Hornlist] Please check this new link for tonguing video! > > >On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:03:26 -0700 >> From: Wendell Rider <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Hornlist] Another try...Short tonguing video >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> OK, my link to the short tonguing movie didn't work, even though i mailed >> it to myself and it did work. >> >> here is the full address. >> >> http://web.me.com/wrider/Real_World_Horn_Playing/Movies.html >> >> Sincerely >> Wendell Rider >> For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the DVDs, go to >> my website: www.wendellworld.com > > >Sorry folks. Chalk it up to post symposium recuperation disorder. I am redoing >my web site and building a new one. The right address for the tonguing video >is now: > >http://web.me.com/wrider/Real_World_Horn_Playing/Videos.html > >Unfortunately, this video will also be moving to its permanent address again >in a day or so, but this address will be valid for a while. >Wendell Rider >For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the DVDs, go to >my website: www.wendellworld.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >post: [email protected] >unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
