Science disagrees with you Hans. If you technically clone a Strad, Amati, Raoux, Paxman, etc. atom for atom, molecule for molecule, then it would be exactly the same. The only issue would be with radiometric aging for anything in the Violin using particular Carbon isotopes, but if you had the technology to clone things exactly with the same isotope ratios that occur due to aging then it would be exactly the same.
Believe it or not, if there was a way to clone a human being in the same method where molecule for molecule is the same - and the person is the exact copy (same age, etc.) then the memories and skills and talents would still be intact. The reasoning for this is that muscle memory is not only built into the muscles, but the brain stores memories as specific chemicals, so they are physically there and are measurable. HOWEVER: Cloning on the nanometer level like this likely won't arrive for a very long time so it makes the discussion rather moot. As an aside, I often argue that there is no 'spirit' with human nature because it categorizes certain things as unsolvable mysteries which we invent answers for. Yes, there are some things we don't know yet, but you simply say "I don't know" because saying it's a spirit or ghost or demon or whatever is the reason behind musicality means we invent an answer that explains everything and explains nothing. There's no doubt that amazing musicians exist - but I don't believe for a moment that their level of musicality would die with them because I feel it is ALWAYS teachable and in the end explainable to a satisfactory degree. Plus, I don't feel that this opinion/approach at all takes any enjoyment out of life because to me knowledge and understanding is enjoyment (as well as acknowledging ignorance and humility). Finally, it is an enrichment in my life (and many others) to realize that what may be 'impossible' or 'unattainable' or even 'unexplainable' really could be given the right circumstances and knowledge. How can you teach the unteachable? How can you explain the unexplainable? Musicality has many mysteries behind it, but we won't solve them by inventing answers. Plus, we must remember that every mystery that has ever been solved in the history of humanity has turned out to be not magic. After all, what is talent but the right genes, the right preparation, and the right attitude? Then again, this is my opinion and I respectfully disagree. Take it with however many grains of salt you want. -William -----Original Message----- From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:42 am Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fwd: Are there any good ways lip and fingers in shpe on a long boat trip. Print-clone the best horn (?) o the best violin (Stradivarius), but also print-clone the most famous players (whoever you might think of) and implement the best characteristics of yourself (??), but still remain ........... incompetent, unequal, with the same problems as before, because competence, talent, strength, knowledge cannot be cloned, ....... fortunately (socialism tried that !! and failed !). In your particular case of a "travel-horn" you first have to find the most suitable master piece. Dear Valerie, you must have a lot of free time, to find all this stuff. Keeping the chops in shape ? Well, let us talk about the task. The bigger problem is, keeping the lips used to the mouthpiece (rim, pressure, etc.), which can be solved just doing some exercises with the mouthpiece alone, but just some light exercises, perhaps several minutes each at different times of the day. Avoid expecting any great sound. Do never force things. Next problem to solve: endurance. This should never be any problem. Well, admitted: The endurance is less after two weeks absence from real playing. But that´s not a problem at all, as this endurance will be back after the first rehearsal, where you play somewhat cautiously to avoid burning your lips. Or plan an extra day to bring endurance back. This might work fine for most of the professionals, but might be problematic for those who never had proper training /lessons by a professional teacher. Remember also: if you had flaws in your playing before the break/travel/etc., these flaws will be still there. BTW: anyone heard about the 7,0 quake near Japan/Honshu cost between Sendai & Fukushima some six hours ago ? We here in Munich had a thunderstorm at around 09:00 PM with normal size hail stones & much rain, lasting 25 minutes, but it returned at 10:00 P.M. with a power, I have never seen in my life. The lightnings flashing like New Years Eve fireworks for full 45 minutes. The thunders were strong but as there were so many it was more a "Goetterdaemmerung"-like scenario with permanent loud rumpling & grumbling for 45 minutes - and it rains the past 8 hours. ##################################################### Am 10.07.2011 um 02:44 schrieb valerie wells: > Remember this discussion from a few weeks ago? We were dreaming of an > acoustically correct, inexpensive horn that could be used to keep our chops > in shape when we travel? > > Well....could this be the technology to make our dream a reality? > > http://youtu.be/ZboxMsSz5Aw > > Valerie Wells > The Balanced Embouchure Method > http://bebabe.wordpress.com/ > http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
