I can't really give advice about tuning to the orchestra, because I know first hand that the orchestra pitch can be horribly out of tune. I have perfect pitch, so I have an advantage in that area.


From: Anne & Larry Brunelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Tuning question
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 16:13:48 -0500

What I used to do with pretty good success was to
match the offender's pitch and then start "pulling"
to the correct pitch.  Very many people will come
right along with you, apparently without even
noticing that they're doing so.  This often even
works with those sitting above you.

And some won't.  Especially if they're invincibly flat.
Can't have everything.

I also think I remember that if the first trumpet and
the first horn agree on a consistent pitch and are
firm about it (and not flat), the orchestra as a whole
will tend to "believe" that pitch better than the oboe's
(especially if he IS flat or inconsistent).

It also helps if the individual sections (at least the
HORN section) think tuning together BEFORE a rehearsal
is a good idea.  FWIW, most of the time, when *I* am
irritated by an intonation problem, so are the others
involved, and would be happy to get rid of those beats.

It goes without saying (or should) that we are trying
to make the pitch BETTER (closer to the orchestra's
standard, whether 440, 443, whatever).

Larry Brunelle

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Here's a serious question:  I'd be interested in hearing other
> people's survival techniques when the pitch in the orchestra is
> terrible.  In other words, how to keep yourself sounding as good as
> possible while everyone around you is trying to rip the mouthpiece
> right off your face by playing out of tune, half the orchestra sharp,
> the other half flat. Well, ok let's call that the worst case
> scenario.  How about if the pitch is not that bad, but maybe one
> person in the group is off enough that you can't really go with them
> but you have some important stuff to play with them? Let's assume for
> the sake of the discussion, that the situation can't be changed
> through talking to the other players involved and that your pitch is,
>  of course, perfect - it's those other numbskulls causing all the
> trouble.  I'm interested in what can be done while actually playing
> to keep focused and to keep from getting thrown off by bad pitch.
> Whaddya say?  - Steve Mumford




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