Just wondering if anyone knows or has contacts of horn players in Buenos Aires, Argentina. My son will be serving a mission for our church in Buenos Aires for the next year. On his day off he would like to meet/hear horn players there. Thanks, Linda Zuniga ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: Horn Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6
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RE: trombonists (James O'Briant) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > message: 1 > date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:30:49 -0400 > from: Rick Nadeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Franz Duets > > > Milton, > > You can find this publication at Robert King Music > > http://www.rkingmusic.com/ > > Stock #5304 > > or at Southern Music Company > > http://www.smcpublications.com/catalog/music/instrumental/brass/ > french_horn.htm > > Stock # B136 > > Rick > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Anyone know where I might find Book 1 Horn 1 & 2 of the Oscar Franz > > 100 Duets for Horn?? > > > > I have tried Robert King, and it is not in the catalog. > > > > Thanks > > > > Milton > > Milton Kicklighter > > 4th Horn Buffalo Phil > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/gators%40suscom.net > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 2 > date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:23:35 -0400 > from: "Francois Lefebvre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock > > In french stalactite tombe et stalacmite monte c'est facile it's easy ! > Francois > > > >From: Herbert Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock > >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:30:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I learned: staLACTite; lact is milk; cows give milk; consider the udder. > > > >Herb Foster > >--- Carlberg Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Spring Ahead, Fall Back! > > > > > > Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosy! > > > > > > Stlactites Hold on Tight, Stalagmites Grow up with all Their Might! > > > > > > Any others? > > > > > > Carlberg Jones > > > Guanajuato, Gto. > > > MEXICO > > > 011-52-473-731-0179 > > > Cel. 011-52-473-560-8020 > > > US number 1-206-350-3090 (message/fax only) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > set your options at > >http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > >http://shopping.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ > >post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >set your options at > >http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/frlefebvre%40hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! > http://fr.ca.search.msn.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 3 > date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:30:20 -0500 > from: "Stephen F. Pearce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: [Hornlist] Hello from the Gulf South > > For the other aviators in the bunch: remember "Neodd Sweven"?.....and of > course: Suck,Squeeze,Slam and Blow. Now before anyone comes completely > unglued, those are the four strokes of an internal combustion engine > (Intake, Compression, Ignition, Exhaust). > > This weekend was a great time for the gang down here on the Gulf > Coast....The Northwest Florida Symphony played a couple of "tunes" by > Tchaikovsky....#4 was good for a bell rattling, but we sure missed Doc > Robby. Doc, if you're listening: Maniscola did a great job, and sound > pressure level was not a problem. Everyone took their mutes out. > > I just got the book for J.C. Superstar and rehearsals begin this weekend. > Man o' LaMancha opens next weekend so Sunday's rehearsals are back to back. > Throw in Beethoven's Christus am Oelberge and Mendelssohn's Hymne with the > Choral Society of Pensacola and Mozart 29/Brandenburg # something with > NFSO's Chamber series for good measure and life is good. Almost > forgot.....There's also the Pensacola Civic Band followed by beer on Tuesday > nights. > > We are enjoying the Fall of the year since the daytime temperatures are down > in the low 80's. Y'all come to see us when you can. > > Stephen F. Pearce > Foley, Alabama > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The main trouble with a French Horn is that it is too tangled up. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003 > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 4 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:01:26 +0200 > from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Pizka) > subject: RE: [Hornlist] Franz Duets > > BTW, I have published the Oscar Franz Konzertstueck for two horns & > piano. > > Also the four concert pieces for horn & piano by Carl Matys & a lot of > horn/piano pieces by Carl Daniel Lorenz > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of milton kicklighter > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:08 AM > To: The Horn List 2; horn list > Subject: [Hornlist] Franz Duets > > Hi All, > > Anyone know where I might find Book 1 Horn 1 & 2 of the Oscar Franz 100=20 > Duets for Horn?? > > I have tried Robert King, and it is not in the catalog. > > Thanks > > Milton > Milton Kicklighter > 4th Horn Buffalo Phil > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 5 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:11:48 EDT > from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock > > In a message dated 04/10/2003 03:36:39 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > In french stalactite tombe et stalacmite monte c'est facile it's easy ! > > That's cheating! :-) > > All the best, > > Lawrence > > AOL is having problems at the moment - if you do not receive an > acknowledgement within 24 hours (I usually reply within 12 hrs), please re-send your e-mail > - I probably haven't received it. > > http://lawrenceyates.co.uk > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 6 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:16:10 EDT > from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns > > In a message dated 10/3/2003 1:11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > So, when are those times for "all your big horn needs"? Nobody in > > this town seems to have problems with their "small, agile, medium > > throat horn(s)." > > > > I'm not sure I understand the question, probably because of antiquated > recollections of horn playing in Boston. I did my serious playing in the sixties > and seventies, but I did it in Boston. I don't recall anyone serious about horn > playing an 8D. Mostly everything was Alexander and Kruspe. We had eight > horns in the Greater Boston Youth Symphony, my senior year, 1964, and all were > Alexander or Kruspe, except my Reynolds, and Brian Morrel's Holton. The horns I > remember were all European. That was the norm in the semi pro groups I played > in, to help pay tuition through college. I must have been pretty self > conscious about this 'ban' on 8Ds, since my Reynolds was supposed to be even bigger, > and badder than an 8D. I vividly remember being surprised, on joining the > Newton Symphony, finding the principal player, Cabbage, playing a Holton. I'd > taken several years off horn playing, to play bass in a rock band, and I saw > this as major change during my absence. In 1978 I moved to the West coast. > > Interestingly, when I found myself playing in the Peninsula Symphony, there > was Cabbage, again the principal horn. Is that what you do to players who use > American horns in Boston? > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 7 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:32:37 -0400 > from: "Mark Louttit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston > > Bill. > > Among the professional ranks in the Boston area the Geyer/Knopf style horn > is very much in vogue as you correctly surmised. In the recent past > Alexanders enjoyed a great amount of popularity and going further back, it > wasn't uncommon to find a Conn 6D here and there. > > In the amateur and student ranks, however, one will find Conn 8D's and > Holtons just like anywhere else. In the community orchestra I play in we > have a C.F. Schmidt (I know of one other amateur and one professional who > also play C.F. Schmidts), a Yamaha (intermediate model 581, I believe), an > Elkhart Conn 8D and a Ricco Kuehn. In other groups that I have played in > Conns and Holtons are quite readily found. Rumor has it that there are > several latent 8D players in the professional ranks in the Boston area who > will take their 8D's out of the closet now and then and perform on them in > the privacy of their own homes. > > At a certain level, one will not see an 8D in sight, below that level they > are definitely around and are played on in the greater Boston area. > > my two euros for the day, > > Mark L. > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 8 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:07:21 -0400 > from: "Bob Osmun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II > > Osmun Music has the same story from Yamaha - delivery of the screw bell > 668NDII's sometime in November. We hear that the fixed bell version is in > stock now. We like to stock the cut bell version. > > Jim Battell > Osmun Music > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.osmun.com (web site) > > (781)646-5756 (Phone) > (781)646-2480 (Fax) > (800)223-7846 (Toll Free in U.S.) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Pappal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:50 PM > Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II > > > > List: > > > > Does anyone know of any larger music stores which > > would have a new Yamaha 668 Series II, > > Nickel/Detachable Bell horn in stock? It seems that > > Yamaha won't be sending any more of these horns over > > from Japan until late November due to some production > > snaffu. I've tried Chuck Levin's and Baltimore Brass, > > but no dice. Just for curiosity's sake, to see if > > there really is a backlog on these horns, I checked at > > several of the "discount" websites such as woodwind > > and brasswind and music123, and sure enough, no nickel > > versions of the 668. Does anyone know if Osmun, > > Rayburn's, or other's rountinely stock Yamaha? > > (Wichita band instrument co. doesn't stock new Yamaha > > either.) Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, Scott Pappal > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 9 > date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:34:47 -0400 > from: Alan Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II > > Just this past week I took my old YHR-668N to a local guy for screw bell > conversion using a new non-Yamaha screw-bell ring set I got off eBay. > > Not only that, the guy is soldering silver Mercury dimes onto the 1-2-3 > valve levers for me. > > Are we talking customized, or what? > > -- Alan Cole, rank amateur > McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > We like to stock the cut bell version. > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 10 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:47:04 -0400 > from: "G Napuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: [Hornlist] Apprenticeship > > Alex & all. Living in New Milford NJ & freelancing in the NYC Metro area may > provide you w/a "eat your cake & have it" opportunity. Take a chutzpah-moxy > attitude as PN had done w/Geyer. As a start, visit Dillon Music in > Woodbridge NJ. Present your dream(s). Propose part time, etc (maybe free, if > lucky for apprentice wages). There may be smaller repair shops in your metro > area. I seem to remember one a few years ago in-near Dover. Remember, God > (Mother Nature) helps them that help themselves. Good luck. Take care. GN > NAPUDA ASSOC. G Napuda-owner > Management, Technical & TQM Consulting > ENGINEERING: ANS,ASQ,DOD,DOE,NRC,IAEA & nat'l-intn'l Power Plant Utilities > MUSIC: AFM (Life Member),IHS (NJ Rep),US Army, Grade School-College, & > Freelance > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 11 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:59:43 -0500 > from: "jdelarosa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston > > Bill: > > Tired of the rasping sounding pea shooters are you? Me too. Same deal here > in Chicago. No one dares even carry a large bore Krupse wrap around > Orchestra Hall. The monks may set upon you. > > Usually I fix that problem by playing my old Cleveland recordings. Did the > Rhenish just the other day. > > Julio de la Rosa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Louttit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:32 AM > Subject: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston > > > > Bill. > > > > Among the professional ranks in the Boston area the Geyer/Knopf style horn > > is very much in vogue as you correctly surmised. In the recent past > > Alexanders enjoyed a great amount of popularity and going further back, it > > wasn't uncommon to find a Conn 6D here and there. > > > > In the amateur and student ranks, however, one will find Conn 8D's and > > Holtons just like anywhere else. In the community orchestra I play in we > > have a C.F. Schmidt (I know of one other amateur and one professional who > > also play C.F. Schmidts), a Yamaha (intermediate model 581, I believe), an > > Elkhart Conn 8D and a Ricco Kuehn. In other groups that I have played in > > Conns and Holtons are quite readily found. Rumor has it that there are > > several latent 8D players in the professional ranks in the Boston area who > > will take their 8D's out of the closet now and then and perform on them in > > the privacy of their own homes. > > > > At a certain level, one will not see an 8D in sight, below that level they > > are definitely around and are played on in the greater Boston area. > > > > my two euros for the day, > > > > Mark L. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jdelarosa%40ameritech.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 12 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:16:59 EDT > from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Apprenticeship > > Any body have an idea on the Waterloo Iowa area? Merlin is too busy to hire > me any one know anyone else? > > Thanks, > > Hoss > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 13 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:17:08 -0700 (PDT) > from: Evan Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: [Hornlist] trombonists > > In response to the comment about trombonists who are of below-average intelligence, I have found this quite true with most that I have met. They have an instrument that is capable of playing with perfect intonation, yet are always atleast a quarter tone > off. The trombone is mechanically the simplist instrument, yet they tend to neglect their horns. Now, I started playing trombone 6 months ago to participate in several jazz ensembles. Besides having a wider range, and better intonation (developed from > years on horn), playing the trombone (I play trombone, I am not a trombonist; I am a hornist) has strengthen my horn playing. The less resistance in the instrument has resulted in using more air and less pressure on the horn, as well as increased enduran > ce on both instruments--switching between horn and trombone for a few hours and the difference in mouthpieces works out and relaxes my embouchure. Then again, it could just be my own experience. > > -Evan Hayes > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > ------------------------------ > > message: 14 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:14:44 EDT > from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston > > In a message dated 10/4/2003 7:36:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Among the professional ranks in the Boston area the Geyer/Knopf style horn > > is very much in vogue as you correctly surmised. In the recent past > > Alexanders enjoyed a great amount of popularity and going further back, it > > wasn't uncommon to find a Conn 6D here and there. > > > > I still favor the raucous Boston sound that I remember. Big bowl mouthpiece > on a medium throat horn. The first time I ran into a serious 8D player was in > the early mid sixties. Nolan Miller was resident horn player at a music camp > near Tanglewood. I was surprised how civilized his 8D sounded compared to my > teacher, Ralph Pottle and the Boston sound we'd all emulated in GBYSO from > our BSO teachers. Nolan's playing was beautiful, but I'd already been > indoctrinated. A real horn section should sound like trash cans being kicked around > from the back, but glorious to the audience out front. I was taught that the > sound I projected was much more covered than what I heard. Let the horn ring if > it's under control. Somehow, we all learn to push. It just comes in > different ways. I sometimes wonder how much my overall concept of playing would have > been different, had I grown up in Philadelphia, or New York, or Chicago > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 15 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:17:58 -0500 > from: Dan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: Fwd: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns > > This message was rejected by SpamAssassin, for the reasons mentioned=20 > below. Although I can't figure out where it got the most damaging clue,=20 > the rest of the reasons given are worth considering when one chooses=20 > settings for an email client: please send plain text to the horn list. > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003 7:27:01 AM America/Chicago > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns > > > > This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached > > along with this report, so you can recognize or block similar unwanted > > mail in future. 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If you wish to view > > it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003 7:27:01 AM America/Chicago > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns > > > > > > In a message dated 10/3/2003 5:32:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > I agree- with robob.=A0 I think it is very possible to be more versatile= > =20 > > on a geyer yellowbrass small belled horn.=A0 All you have to do is blow= > =20 > > to be big- I'm actually trying to prove this to my horn teacher who=20 > > has been an 8d lawson player for years.=A0 When it comes to bigness on a= > =20 > > horn you either got it or you don't there is no middle ground on=20 > > whatever instrument you play.=A0 I do believe certain things are easier= > =20 > > on seperate horns though and this is what Bill is getting at.=A0 Paxman= > =20 > > is well for high and soft while the kruspe wrap is a monster=20 > > orchestral horn.=A0 Isn't it true we try to do things that come=20 > > unnatural to our respective horns?=A0 Geyers always want to be bigger=20 > > and Kruspe's always want to be softer- pretty big generalization so=20 > > take it with a grain of salt. > > > > > > > > Once, when I was in Oakland, at Best Music, I had an opportunity to=20 > > play a single Bb horn, and my son commented that as a listener, he=20 > > thought the horn was both nimble and lyrical at the same time (He was=20 > > and is, a superb brass player, he plays them all at a professional=20 > > level, except French horn.=A0 He says "that's what French horn players=20 > > are for").=A0 Since they were only asking $210 for it, I bought it to=20 > > fool around with.=A0 It needed some work done, so I walked it over to=20 > > Dick Ackrights shop.=A0 He gave me such a deal on an Atkinson pipe he=20 > > had, I couldn't resist.=A0 Someday, maybe, I'll find out what model.=A0= > =20 > > When I played the modified horn, it had a much bigger sound than I=20 > > remembered, and I had Dick change it back.=A0 Since the pipe was all=20 > > bent with its own tuning slide receiver, I taped it onto the horn so I=20 > > could compare them the two by shifting the tuning slide.=A0 This gave me= > =20 > > an arsenal of three different horns.=A0 With the Atkinson pipe on, I=20 > > found the little sucker had plenty of power to play in the San Jose=20 > > Wind Symphony.=A0 I don't think anyone noticed I was playing a single=20 > > horn, there were certainly no disparaging comments.=A0 I was playing=20 > > third part, the principal played an Alex 103, and the second horn had=20 > > a really nice Elkhart 6D, silver, if I recall correctly.=A0 I had been=20 > > playing the Reynolds heavy bell.=A0 Either of my horns fit in, but=20 > > completely differently.=A0 It had never occurred to me that my change=20 > > would influence the whole section.=A0 The nature of the pieces being=20 > > played dictated which horn worked better.=A0 Either horn was acceptable= > =20 > > on any given piece.=A0 I never changed horns between pieces, but I would= > =20 > > use both horns at reading sessions, then decide which horn matched=20 > > best to the concert.=A0 I wouldn't advocate telling your fellow players= > =20 > > that you are now in control of the section.=A0 It is far more subtle=20 > > than that.=A0 You become more conscious of the group sound, and your own= > =20 > > role in making it.=A0 Once you become aware of individual contributions,= > =20 > > you realize there are small things you can do to influence the=20 > > section.=A0 There is a means of communication.=A0 This is old hat to=20 > > anyone who plays improvisation.=A0 I'm just trying to find a way to=20 > > introduce the concept to those who still play strictly to the beat,=20 > > but I'm getting off the subject. > > > > The point is, the instrument you play has a real part in defining the=20 > > end product, by having two choices, you can stack the deck a little.=A0= > =20 > > It really adds to the enjoyment, and takes your personal=20 > > sophistication up a notch just by adding to your awareness. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 16 > date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:45:27 -0700 > from: "James O'Briant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: RE: [Hornlist] trombonists > > Well, Mr. Hayes, let's see what trombonists have to say about your > comments. I've just forwarded your message to the Trombone-L list. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Evan Hayes > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:17 AM > To: horn list > Subject: [Hornlist] trombonists > > > In response to the comment about trombonists who are of below-average > intelligence, I have found this quite true with most that I have met. > They have an instrument that is capable of playing with perfect > intonation, yet are always atleast a quarter tone off. The trombone is > mechanically the simplist instrument, yet they tend to neglect their > horns. Now, I started playing trombone 6 months ago to participate in > several jazz ensembles. Besides having a wider range, and better > intonation (developed from years on horn), playing the trombone (I play > trombone, I am not a trombonist; I am a hornist) has strengthen my horn > playing. The less resistance in the instrument has resulted in using > more air and less pressure on the horn, as well as increased endurance > on both instruments--switching between horn and trombone for a few hours > and the difference in mouthpieces works out and relaxes my embouchure. > Then again, it could just be my own experience. > > -Evan Hayes > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > > End of Horn Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

