Just wondering if anyone knows or has contacts of horn players in Buenos
Aires, Argentina.  My son will be serving a mission for our church in Buenos
Aires for the next year.  On his day off  he would like to meet/hear horn
players there.
Thanks,
Linda Zuniga
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>    1. Re: Franz Duets (Rick Nadeau)
>    2. RE: NHR - World Clock (Francois Lefebvre)
>    3. Hello from the Gulf South (Stephen F. Pearce)
>    4. RE: Franz Duets (Hans Pizka)
>    5. Re: NHR - World Clock ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>    6. Re: Yamaha horns ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>    7. Horns in Boston (Mark Louttit)
>    8. Re: Yamaha 668 Series II (Bob Osmun)
>    9. Re: Yamaha 668 Series II (Alan Cole)
>   10. Apprenticeship (G Napuda)
>   11. Re: Horns in Boston (jdelarosa)
>   12. Re: Apprenticeship ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   13. trombonists (Evan Hayes)
>   14. Re: Horns in Boston ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   15. Fwd: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns (Dan Phillips)
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> message: 1
> date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:30:49 -0400
> from: Rick Nadeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Franz Duets
>
>
> Milton,
>
> You can find this publication at Robert King Music
>
> http://www.rkingmusic.com/
>
> Stock #5304
>
> or at Southern Music Company
>
> http://www.smcpublications.com/catalog/music/instrumental/brass/
> french_horn.htm
>
> Stock # B136
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Anyone know where I might find Book 1 Horn 1 & 2 of the Oscar Franz
> > 100 Duets for Horn??
> >
> > I have tried Robert King, and it is not in the catalog.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Milton
> > Milton Kicklighter
> > 4th Horn Buffalo Phil
> > _______________________________________________
> > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 2
> date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:23:35 -0400
> from: "Francois Lefebvre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock
>
> In french  stalactite tombe et stalacmite monte c'est facile it's easy !
> Francois
>
>
> >From: Herbert Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock
> >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:30:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >I learned: staLACTite; lact is milk; cows give milk; consider the udder.
> >
> >Herb Foster
> >--- Carlberg Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Spring Ahead, Fall Back!
> > >
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> > >
> > > Stlactites Hold on Tight, Stalagmites Grow up with all Their Might!
> > >
> > > Any others?
> > >
> > > Carlberg Jones
> > > Guanajuato, Gto.
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> > > 011-52-473-731-0179
> > > Cel. 011-52-473-560-8020
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> ------------------------------
>
> message: 3
> date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:30:20 -0500
> from: "Stephen F. Pearce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: [Hornlist] Hello from the Gulf South
>
> For the other aviators in the bunch: remember "Neodd Sweven"?.....and of
> course: Suck,Squeeze,Slam and Blow.  Now before anyone comes completely
> unglued, those are the four strokes of an internal combustion engine
> (Intake, Compression, Ignition, Exhaust).
>
> This weekend was a great time for the gang down here on the Gulf
> Coast....The Northwest Florida Symphony played a couple of "tunes" by
> Tchaikovsky....#4 was good for a bell rattling, but we sure missed Doc
> Robby.  Doc, if you're listening: Maniscola did a great job, and sound
> pressure level was not a problem.  Everyone took their mutes out.
>
> I just got the book for J.C. Superstar and rehearsals begin this weekend.
> Man o' LaMancha opens next weekend so Sunday's rehearsals are back to
back.
> Throw in Beethoven's Christus am Oelberge and Mendelssohn's Hymne with the
> Choral Society of Pensacola and Mozart 29/Brandenburg # something with
> NFSO's Chamber series for good measure and life is good.  Almost
> forgot.....There's also the Pensacola Civic Band followed by beer on
Tuesday
> nights.
>
> We are enjoying the Fall of the year since the daytime temperatures are
down
> in the low 80's.  Y'all come to see us when you can.
>
> Stephen F. Pearce
> Foley, Alabama
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The main trouble with a French Horn is that it is too tangled up.
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> ------------------------------
>
> message: 4
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:01:26 +0200
> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Pizka)
> subject: RE: [Hornlist] Franz Duets
>
> BTW, I have published the Oscar Franz Konzertstueck for two horns &
> piano.
>
> Also the four concert pieces for horn & piano by Carl Matys & a lot of
> horn/piano pieces by Carl Daniel Lorenz
>
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>
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> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of milton kicklighter
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:08 AM
> To: The Horn List 2; horn list
> Subject: [Hornlist] Franz Duets
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone know where I might find Book 1 Horn 1 & 2 of the Oscar Franz 100=20
> Duets for Horn??
>
> I have tried Robert King, and it is not in the catalog.
>
> Thanks
>
> Milton
> Milton Kicklighter
> 4th Horn Buffalo Phil
> _______________________________________________
> post: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 5
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:11:48 EDT
> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock
>
> In a message dated 04/10/2003 03:36:39 GMT Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > In french  stalactite tombe et stalacmite monte c'est facile it's easy !
>
> That's cheating! :-)
>
> All the best,
>
> Lawrence
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 6
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:16:10 EDT
> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns
>
> In a message dated 10/3/2003 1:11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> > So, when are those times for "all your big horn needs"? Nobody in
> > this town seems to have problems with their "small, agile, medium
> > throat horn(s)."
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand the question, probably because of antiquated
> recollections of horn playing in Boston.  I did my serious playing in the
sixties
> and seventies, but I did it in Boston.  I don't recall anyone serious
about horn
> playing an 8D. Mostly everything was Alexander and Kruspe.  We had eight
> horns in the Greater Boston Youth Symphony, my senior year, 1964, and all
were
> Alexander or Kruspe, except my Reynolds, and Brian Morrel's Holton.  The
horns I
> remember were all European.  That was the norm in the semi pro groups I
played
> in, to help pay tuition through college.  I must have been pretty self
> conscious about this 'ban' on 8Ds, since my Reynolds was supposed to be
even bigger,
> and badder than an 8D.  I vividly remember being surprised, on joining the
> Newton Symphony, finding the principal player, Cabbage, playing a Holton.
I'd
> taken several years off horn playing, to play bass in a rock band, and I
saw
> this as major change during my absence.  In 1978 I moved to the West
coast.
>
> Interestingly, when I found myself playing in the Peninsula Symphony,
there
> was Cabbage, again the principal horn.  Is that what you do to players who
use
> American horns in Boston?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 7
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:32:37 -0400
> from: "Mark Louttit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston
>
> Bill.
>
> Among the professional ranks in the Boston area the Geyer/Knopf style horn
> is very much in vogue as you correctly surmised. In the recent past
> Alexanders enjoyed a great amount of popularity and going further back, it
> wasn't uncommon to find a Conn 6D here and there.
>
> In the amateur and student ranks, however, one will find Conn 8D's and
> Holtons just like anywhere else.  In the community orchestra I play in we
> have a C.F. Schmidt (I know of one other amateur and one professional who
> also play C.F. Schmidts), a Yamaha (intermediate model 581, I believe), an
> Elkhart Conn 8D and a Ricco Kuehn. In other groups that I have played in
> Conns and Holtons are quite readily found. Rumor has it that there are
> several latent 8D players in the professional ranks in the Boston area who
> will take their 8D's out of the closet now and then and perform on them in
> the privacy of their own homes.
>
> At a certain level, one will not see an 8D in sight, below that level they
> are definitely around and are played on in the greater Boston area.
>
> my two euros for the day,
>
> Mark L.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 8
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:07:21 -0400
> from: "Bob Osmun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II
>
> Osmun Music has the same story from Yamaha - delivery of the screw bell
> 668NDII's sometime in November.  We hear that the fixed bell version is in
> stock now.  We like to stock the cut bell version.
>
> Jim Battell
> Osmun Music
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.osmun.com (web site)
>
> (781)646-5756 (Phone)
> (781)646-2480 (Fax)
> (800)223-7846 (Toll Free in U.S.)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Pappal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II
>
>
> > List:
> >
> > Does anyone know of any larger music stores which
> > would have a new Yamaha 668 Series II,
> > Nickel/Detachable Bell horn in stock? It seems that
> > Yamaha won't be sending any more of these horns over
> > from Japan until late November due to some production
> > snaffu. I've tried Chuck Levin's and Baltimore Brass,
> > but no dice. Just for curiosity's sake, to see if
> > there really is a backlog on these horns, I checked at
> > several of the "discount" websites such as woodwind
> > and brasswind and music123, and sure enough, no nickel
> > versions of the 668. Does anyone know if Osmun,
> > Rayburn's, or other's rountinely stock Yamaha?
> > (Wichita band instrument co. doesn't stock new Yamaha
> > either.) Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks, Scott Pappal
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 9
> date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:34:47 -0400
> from: Alan Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II
>
> Just this past week I took my old YHR-668N to a local guy for screw bell
> conversion using a new non-Yamaha screw-bell ring set I got off eBay.
>
> Not only that, the guy is soldering silver Mercury dimes onto the 1-2-3
> valve levers for me.
>
> Are we talking customized, or what?
>
> -- Alan Cole, rank amateur
>      McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
>       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> We like to stock the cut bell version.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 10
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:47:04 -0400
> from: "G Napuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: [Hornlist] Apprenticeship
>
> Alex & all. Living in New Milford NJ & freelancing in the NYC Metro area
may
> provide you w/a "eat your cake & have it" opportunity. Take a
chutzpah-moxy
> attitude as PN had done w/Geyer. As a start, visit Dillon Music in
> Woodbridge NJ. Present your dream(s). Propose part time, etc (maybe free,
if
> lucky for apprentice wages). There may be smaller repair shops in your
metro
> area. I seem to remember one a few years ago in-near Dover. Remember, God
> (Mother Nature)  helps them that help themselves. Good luck. Take care. GN
> NAPUDA ASSOC. G Napuda-owner
> Management, Technical & TQM Consulting
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> MUSIC: AFM (Life Member),IHS (NJ Rep),US Army, Grade School-College, &
> Freelance
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 11
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:59:43 -0500
> from: "jdelarosa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston
>
> Bill:
>
> Tired of the rasping sounding pea shooters are you? Me too. Same deal here
> in Chicago. No one dares even carry a large bore Krupse wrap around
> Orchestra Hall. The monks may set upon you.
>
> Usually I fix that problem by playing my old Cleveland recordings. Did the
> Rhenish just the other day.
>
> Julio de la Rosa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Louttit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:32 AM
> Subject: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston
>
>
> > Bill.
> >
> > Among the professional ranks in the Boston area the Geyer/Knopf style
horn
> > is very much in vogue as you correctly surmised. In the recent past
> > Alexanders enjoyed a great amount of popularity and going further back,
it
> > wasn't uncommon to find a Conn 6D here and there.
> >
> > In the amateur and student ranks, however, one will find Conn 8D's and
> > Holtons just like anywhere else.  In the community orchestra I play in
we
> > have a C.F. Schmidt (I know of one other amateur and one professional
who
> > also play C.F. Schmidts), a Yamaha (intermediate model 581, I believe),
an
> > Elkhart Conn 8D and a Ricco Kuehn. In other groups that I have played in
> > Conns and Holtons are quite readily found. Rumor has it that there are
> > several latent 8D players in the professional ranks in the Boston area
who
> > will take their 8D's out of the closet now and then and perform on them
in
> > the privacy of their own homes.
> >
> > At a certain level, one will not see an 8D in sight, below that level
they
> > are definitely around and are played on in the greater Boston area.
> >
> > my two euros for the day,
> >
> > Mark L.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > set your options at
> http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jdelarosa%40ameritech.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 12
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:16:59 EDT
> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Apprenticeship
>
> Any body have an idea on the Waterloo Iowa area?  Merlin is too busy to
hire
> me any one know anyone else?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hoss
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 13
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
> from: Evan Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: [Hornlist] trombonists
>
> In response to the comment about trombonists who are of below-average
intelligence, I have found this quite true with most that I have met.  They
have an instrument that is capable of playing with perfect intonation, yet
are always atleast a quarter tone
> off.  The trombone is mechanically the simplist instrument, yet they tend
to neglect their horns.  Now, I started playing trombone 6 months ago to
participate in several jazz ensembles.  Besides having a wider range, and
better intonation (developed from
> years on horn), playing the trombone (I play trombone, I am not a
trombonist; I am a hornist) has strengthen my horn playing.  The less
resistance in the instrument has resulted in using more air and less
pressure on the horn, as well as increased enduran
> ce on both instruments--switching between horn and trombone for a few
hours and the difference in mouthpieces works out and relaxes my embouchure.
Then again, it could just be my own experience.
>
> -Evan Hayes
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> message: 14
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:14:44 EDT
> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns in Boston
>
> In a message dated 10/4/2003 7:36:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Among the professional ranks in the Boston area the Geyer/Knopf style
horn
> > is very much in vogue as you correctly surmised. In the recent past
> > Alexanders enjoyed a great amount of popularity and going further back,
it
> > wasn't uncommon to find a Conn 6D here and there.
> >
>
> I still favor the raucous Boston sound that I remember.  Big bowl
mouthpiece
> on a medium throat horn.  The first time I ran into a serious 8D player
was in
> the early mid sixties.  Nolan Miller was resident horn player at a music
camp
> near Tanglewood.  I was surprised how civilized his 8D sounded compared to
my
> teacher, Ralph Pottle and the Boston sound we'd all emulated in GBYSO from
> our BSO teachers.  Nolan's playing was beautiful, but I'd already been
> indoctrinated.  A real horn section should sound like trash cans being
kicked around
> from the back, but glorious to the audience out front.  I was taught that
the
> sound I projected was much more covered than what I heard.  Let the horn
ring if
> it's under control.  Somehow, we all learn to push.  It just comes in
> different ways.  I sometimes wonder how much my overall concept of playing
would have
> been different, had I grown up in Philadelphia, or New York, or Chicago
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 15
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:17:58 -0500
> from: Dan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: Fwd: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns
>
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003  7:27:01  AM America/Chicago
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/3/2003 5:32:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I agree- with robob.=A0 I think it is very possible to be more
versatile=
> =20
> > on a geyer yellowbrass small belled horn.=A0 All you have to do is blow=
> =20
> > to be big- I'm actually trying to prove this to my horn teacher who=20
> > has been an 8d lawson player for years.=A0 When it comes to bigness on
a=
> =20
> > horn you either got it or you don't there is no middle ground on=20
> > whatever instrument you play.=A0 I do believe certain things are easier=
> =20
> > on seperate horns though and this is what Bill is getting at.=A0 Paxman=
> =20
> > is well for high and soft while the kruspe wrap is a monster=20
> > orchestral horn.=A0 Isn't it true we try to do things that come=20
> > unnatural to our respective horns?=A0 Geyers always want to be bigger=20
> > and Kruspe's always want to be softer- pretty big generalization so=20
> > take it with a grain of salt.
> >
> >
> >
> > Once, when I was in Oakland, at Best Music, I had an opportunity to=20
> > play a single Bb horn, and my son commented that as a listener, he=20
> > thought the horn was both nimble and lyrical at the same time (He was=20
> > and is, a superb brass player, he plays them all at a professional=20
> > level, except French horn.=A0 He says "that's what French horn
players=20
> > are for").=A0 Since they were only asking $210 for it, I bought it to=20
> > fool around with.=A0 It needed some work done, so I walked it over to=20
> > Dick Ackrights shop.=A0 He gave me such a deal on an Atkinson pipe he=20
> > had, I couldn't resist.=A0 Someday, maybe, I'll find out what model.=A0=
> =20
> > When I played the modified horn, it had a much bigger sound than I=20
> > remembered, and I had Dick change it back.=A0 Since the pipe was all=20
> > bent with its own tuning slide receiver, I taped it onto the horn so
I=20
> > could compare them the two by shifting the tuning slide.=A0 This gave
me=
> =20
> > an arsenal of three different horns.=A0 With the Atkinson pipe on, I=20
> > found the little sucker had plenty of power to play in the San Jose=20
> > Wind Symphony.=A0 I don't think anyone noticed I was playing a single=20
> > horn, there were certainly no disparaging comments.=A0 I was playing=20
> > third part, the principal played an Alex 103, and the second horn had=20
> > a really nice Elkhart 6D, silver, if I recall correctly.=A0 I had
been=20
> > playing the Reynolds heavy bell.=A0 Either of my horns fit in, but=20
> > completely differently.=A0 It had never occurred to me that my change=20
> > would influence the whole section.=A0 The nature of the pieces being=20
> > played dictated which horn worked better.=A0 Either horn was acceptable=
> =20
> > on any given piece.=A0 I never changed horns between pieces, but I
would=
> =20
> > use both horns at reading sessions, then decide which horn matched=20
> > best to the concert.=A0 I wouldn't advocate telling your fellow players=
> =20
> > that you are now in control of the section.=A0 It is far more subtle=20
> > than that.=A0 You become more conscious of the group sound, and your
own=
> =20
> > role in making it.=A0 Once you become aware of individual
contributions,=
> =20
> > you realize there are small things you can do to influence the=20
> > section.=A0 There is a means of communication.=A0 This is old hat to=20
> > anyone who plays improvisation.=A0 I'm just trying to find a way to=20
> > introduce the concept to those who still play strictly to the beat,=20
> > but I'm getting off the subject.
> >
> > The point is, the instrument you play has a real part in defining the=20
> > end product, by having two choices, you can stack the deck a little.=A0=
> =20
> > It really adds to the enjoyment, and takes your personal=20
> > sophistication up a notch just by adding to your awareness.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
> message: 16
> date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:45:27 -0700
> from: "James O'Briant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: RE: [Hornlist] trombonists
>
> Well, Mr. Hayes, let's see what trombonists have to say about your
> comments.  I've just forwarded your message to the Trombone-L list.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Evan Hayes
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:17 AM
> To: horn list
> Subject: [Hornlist] trombonists
>
>
> In response to the comment about trombonists who are of below-average
> intelligence, I have found this quite true with most that I have met.
> They have an instrument that is capable of playing with perfect
> intonation, yet are always atleast a quarter tone off.  The trombone is
> mechanically the simplist instrument, yet they tend to neglect their
> horns.  Now, I started playing trombone 6 months ago to participate in
> several jazz ensembles.  Besides having a wider range, and better
> intonation (developed from years on horn), playing the trombone (I play
> trombone, I am not a trombonist; I am a hornist) has strengthen my horn
> playing.  The less resistance in the instrument has resulted in using
> more air and less pressure on the horn, as well as increased endurance
> on both instruments--switching between horn and trombone for a few hours
> and the difference in mouthpieces works out and relaxes my embouchure.
> Then again, it could just be my own experience.
>
> -Evan Hayes
>
>
>
>
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