In a message dated 10/17/2003 2:39:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> I had a thought.  Bob's shop is just up Mass. Ave and around a few corners
> from MIT.  MIT has at least one horn player of note (Jean Rife) and MANY
> engineering students, maybe even graduate Acoustic Engineering students,
> some of whom may be looking for thesis ideas.  Cryo treatment of horns seems
> like an ideal project.  Maybe Bob, Jean, or the IHS can put a bug in
> someone's ear over at the MIT Engineering Department to get this started.
> 
> 

I believe Chris Stratton is connected with MIT.  Check his web site for the 
interesting things he is doing and discovering.  I'd be surprised if he and Bob 
were already acquainted.

In school, I studied physics as primary science and learned practical 
engineering by applying that knowledge to interesting problems.  A huge research 
grant to study horns probably wouldn't accomplish much.  That is the domain of the 
theorists.

A good scientist can already apply what we know about acoustics, metallurgy, 
and such, and come up with a superior instrument.  A good engineer will get 
his hands on as many outstanding (good or bad) instruments and try to determine 
the factors that make them good (or bad).  Good engineering results in 
incremental improvements which, taken collectively, often results in accomplishing 
the impossible.

Unfortunately, there are so few good engineers.  Most engineers function as 
scientists, and never get to practical solutions.  We are fortunate to have 
some very experienced engineers working the horn problem for us.  Bob Osmun is 
certainly one of them, and he collaborates with others equally experienced, to 
bring us custom leadpipes, interesting bell flares, and improved playing 
qualities of new instruments.

An area that would probably result in the most dramatic changes would be the 
application of modern fabrication methods to duplicate the conditions that 
make a really good horn good.  For instance, bending tubing filled with lead 
results in a better instrument, according to some experts.  Bending with pitch or 
frozen soapy water works, but not as well.  How are the results different?  If 
we can pin down the cause and effect, is there another better process?  I use 
motor oil to keep the lead from sticking to the brass.  Somebody doing this 
as a business is not allowed to use lead.  There should probably be a 
functional lubricant to duplicate the effect with pitch.

I just hope people are aware that this forum does a lot to further the 
technology.  The technologists are listening, and they rely on the opinions of the 
listers to help them decide where to invest their development resources.  
That's how, and why, Capitalism works.
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