Listen, Michael, dont think so scrulelous about anything regarding the
horn (hardware). Use your common sense instead, please & not the
subjective judgement of others, at least for such simple questions.

If you exaggerate maintenance you will damage more than conserve. If you
grease your slides ever 2nd day or every week, no wonder, grease may
make it up to valves.

Greasing: for example Vaseline or similar (I use a little round plastic
box of the size less than a quarter & of a thickness of 1/4" full of the
red slide fat - and this box last for years !): clean the slide off
remaining fat, using toilet paper. When ? After water cleaning your horn
once every month. Take a fingertip of fat with your little finger &
place it on every shank of every tuning & valve slide, just so little
you can just see it.

Insert one shank into its place carefully & move the slide from one side
to the other. Pull it out, inset the whole slide carefully.

What will you see then ? Excess fat on the edge of the slide receiver &
on the slide. Clean it away with toilet paper and insert the slide on
its place. Repeat the procedure for the other  slides.

How should fat make it into the valves if you cleaned it away. The whole
whining about comes only from these peoples who are too lazy to clean
the excess fat away BEFORE inserting the slide. The fat layer on the
slides is extremely thing, some thousandths of an inch. 

But, if you push & shave your slides up & down all the times instead of
tuning your horn correctly ONCE & correcting occasional intonation
differences with your partners by the use of the right hand & the
embouchure, you must not WUNDER if mud, grease or else will be
accumulated inside the slide shanks.

It might be WISE, to push the slides fully in a few times before water
cleaning your horn monthly, so to shave off eventually accumulated
slime, grease mud from the inner walls of the slides. But be careful, as
you said you are a quite big person, be careful with your power not to
damage things.

As Karajan said about a very, very prominent player in Vienna: "He is so
tall, so big, like an elephant baby, he has so much power but does not
know yet how to use it."
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Subject: [Hornlist] Slide lubricants

       Hello everyone,
       I was reading the information archive on hornplayer.net, and read
Mr. 
Hecht's posting about lubricating your slides with certain things. 
       I am currently using Selmer's Pink goo stuff, and was wondering
if 
thats the stuff that eventually works its way through the horn and intto
the 
valves. 
       What would be the best lubricant that allows the slides to move
quite 
freely, forms a great seal, and does not dry up quickly and travel
through the 
horn? 

       Thanks,
       Mike

       PS: I heard that axle grease, vaseline, and other petroleum
products 
are some culprits that will eventually work its way through the horn.
       Thanks Mr. Hecht ;-) 
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