The advantage of lying the double part of a triple in Bb, as another
lister has already stated, is that one can easily switch from F to f by
holding the F thumb valve in and only moving one thumb valve, the f valve. I
do this frequently for two reasons, 1) take advantage of easier fingering
for difficult passages that bounce back and forth between the upper and
other registers, and 2) easier jumps or runs into the low register on
certain passages. When you need a very low note to speak fast and crisp, if
it is available on the f horn, that can be a godsend, especially if you have
been just been playing a lot of high stuff as frequently happens when
playing principal. The rest of the time your point is valid--you can play
the triple either way, but when it is lying in Bb there are more advantages
than when lying in F so why not take full advantage of the triple and not
just partial?

Loren
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In a message dated 5/7/2005 9:20:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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If more teachers believed there might be a triple in their  students'
future and understood the advantage of playing a triple with the  double
side
lying in Bb, they would encourage their students to play their  doubles
lying
in Bb at the earliest opportunity so as to eliminate one part  of the
learning curve in switching to a triple in the middle of a career.  I
believe, but obviously do not have any empirical evidence, that  this
learning curve is what keeps some pros from taking on the triple and
risking
their career while they learn to play it; Mr Myers is certainly a  notable
exception. 



Hi Loren,
 
Hope all is well with you.
 
I don't follow the logic on the above.  I play triples that stand in  F
the same as my doubles.  Using this method, I believe the only 
learning curve associated with learning the triple is learning where 
and when to use the hi F side.  My thumb has a mind of its  own 
and it thinks it needs to push when the Bb horn is employed.  I 
don't think there is a need to change that conditioned reaction 
just because it's now playing a triple.
 
I guess I don't see the "advantage of playing a triple with the 
double side lying in Bb".  I seems to me that it would be  easier 
to learn the triple if the triple stood in the key one is used  to.
Is there a significant advantage to a horn standing Bb rather 
than F ........ especially regarding the triple?  
 
BTW, looking forward to seeing you in Tuscaloosa.  Johannes 
should have my overhauled Finke triple there and I would 
appreciate your comments regarding the horn.   
 
Regards,     Jerry (never too Old to learn) in Kansas  City 
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