There are two issues at work, how do you create a better world in the long run versus how do you stop evil immediately. Rwanda was a failure of the world. Here in the US we bickered over the terms "genocidal acts" versus "genocide." If our government had used the word "genocide" we would have been forced to act. By an art of language we were able to sit by and watch the killings take place. How about the Sudan presently? The US has approached the UN Security Council on more than one occasion seeking their actions. What has been the action of that body?
Does man kind need to change? Yes. Does that mean we should stand by and do nothing or apply appropriate force to stop what is happening in the Sudan, what happened in Rwanda, Srebenica until the world changes. If I understand your position, it is to wait for the long term changes in human nature. It is a position that I can not support. Apply the appropriate force today with a vision to not needing it in the future. ---------------------------------------------------------------- You resonate on Srbrenica, but what about Ugand & Rwanda-Burundi; Etiopia ? Have you forgotten Biafra ? Cambodia ? Hiroshima, Dresden ? I do not blame our Western friends for these two tragedies. It was just politics & necessary perhaps. I blame mankind as a whole, to let such things happen. Auschwitz, Mauthausen & the other lagers ? I have seen them. We have the large documentary center here in Dachau & I bring all my visiting friends to this place to experience the HELL. But why did mankind let this happen ? Did they close their eyes completely or were they drunk in their magalomania ? And we supported Pol Pot & Idi Amin & Saddam just for selfish interests. I just work through the official 8000+ pages of the official Kriegstagebuch of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (War diary of the suppreme command) to learn more about the facts, but learned, what nonsense came from The Fuehrer himself in his sermons for the generals as early as three years before the collaps, but all the generals remained silent until July 20th, 1944 when a handful of courageous amateur revolutionaries tried to eliminate the devil - unsuccessfully. But all the others remained TACET. That is our illness, our tragedy. It is ashaming for mankind. Deepest ashaming in the 21st century. I really feel sorry for this world, I feel sorry for all children. Their chances for the future are not so nice. For myself, baaah, 63 years have passed quite o.k. I am thankful for that, very thankful. ============================================================ ================================================= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matthew scheffelman Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:55 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Peace ... If one wants peace, you( or they ) must accept the consequences. I doubt these religious fundamentalist radicals will ever accept peace. Hiding in the love for community and brotherhood, terrorists thrive off the trust of others belonging to the same "belief" ,unless brainwashing is employed, it will never end. War will never be the same as it was in the two world wars, or vietnam, Korea. A strong UN must step up to fix the years of mistakes(yugoslavia). I truly believe our "western" culture is positive for the future for one Huge reason. The empowerment of the Female in controling her body for all purposes. This is the biggest fear among Men in all non-western cultures, more so the middle east. I will not spout my reasons of strength for the American Woman. Matthew Scheffelman Horn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org