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Today's Topics:
1. Looking for SF area horns for my students (Scott Hartman)
2. RE: Raised Intraocular pressure ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
3. Re: low C (Dan McCartney)
4. RE: RE: Raised Intraocular pressure (Steve Freides)
5. RE: Re: Low C / Coronation Mass (Prof.Hans Pizka)
6. RE: RE: Raised Intraocular pressure (scott young)
7. Re: Need Bb Single Horn Advice (Corno)
8. Re: Re: John Graas - name that horn? (Graham, Jarvis)
(Peter Hirsch)
9. John Graas is my uncle (Susan McKeever)
10. Opportunities for performers (Retired Prof 55)
11. RE: Raised Intraocular pressure ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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message: 1
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:13:28 -0800
from: Scott Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: [Hornlist] Looking for SF area horns for my students
Hi,
I have couple of students looking for good double horns. We're in
the San Jose area. If you happen to have or know where a good horn
for excellent high school players might be anywhere in the Bay Area,
please send me a mail at the above address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Thanks mucho,
scottitto
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message: 2
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:13:29 -0500
from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: [Hornlist] RE: Raised Intraocular pressure
I remember that here in Boston a few years ago NEMC was doing a study of
increased incidences of Glaucoma amongst musicians - specifically those
who
play instruments which require internal pressure. The Oboists and the
Horn
players were found to have higher rates of Glaucoma! I suspect there are
many on this list who can illuminate this fact far better than I can.
(Does anyone know if Intraocular pressure is what causes our Computer
screens to make lines if we watch them while we play our horns ((Only
visible to the person buzzing their lips))?
Ken Pope
"Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow...."
http://www.poperepair.com
BONNA CASES IN STOCK!!
Pope Instrument Repair
80 Wenham Street
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
617-522-0532
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message: 3
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:34:50 -0500
from: Dan McCartney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: Re: [Hornlist] low C
There is a difference in resistance. If you simply try the fingerings and
blow rather than try to produce a tone, you'll note that the air moves
more
easily on the F side, probably because 1+3 on the Bb side has more bends
an=
d
turns.
On 2/7/06, Daniel Canarutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can anybody explain way the fundamental of the F horn is so easier on
the Bb horn fingered 13 rather than on the F horn without pressing
any key? After all, one has the same tube length in the two cases.
Daniel
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Dan McCartney
Prof. of New Testament
Westminster Theological Seminary, Philadelphia
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message: 4
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:36:28 -0500
from: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Raised Intraocular pressure
I find this difficult to accept, Ken. Glaucoma is too much pressure
inside
part of the eye - how would playing the horn contribute to such a
condition?
Holding one's breath can raise blood pressure, but even then it's only a
temporary condition - there is no cause and effect relationship between
playing the horn and high blood pressure that I'm aware of, having to deal
with bad conductors not withstanding, of course. :)
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I don't see how such a causal
relationship could exist.
-S-
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Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Raised Intraocular pressure
I remember that here in Boston a few years ago NEMC was doing
a study of increased incidences of Glaucoma amongst musicians
- specifically those who play instruments which require
internal pressure. The Oboists and the Horn players were
found to have higher rates of Glaucoma! I suspect there are
many on this list who can illuminate this fact far better than I can.
(Does anyone know if Intraocular pressure is what causes our
Computer screens to make lines if we watch them while we play
our horns ((Only visible to the person buzzing their lips))?
Ken Pope
"Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow...."
http://www.poperepair.com
BONNA CASES IN STOCK!!
Pope Instrument Repair
80 Wenham Street
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
617-522-0532
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message: 5
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:05:16 +0100
from: "Prof.Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Low C / Coronation Mass
Off course, one of the most beautiful compositions.
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Behalf Of Daniel Canarutto
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Low C / Coronation Mass
Hans wrote:
But what's so important with this note...
Hans, my teacher is now making me work a lot on the low
register, and you said yourself that this improves the whole
horn register. And thanks to a previous hint by a lister
(sorry, I forgot the name!) about the slightly different
placing, I was able to produce the low C in F much better
(remark: the Singer method, in its first part, requires that
almost everything be played in F, but not the lowest notes).
About the Coronation Mass: I performed this 2 weeks ago, and
although it is true that it's essentially accompaniment,
nevertheless it is really beautiful to be in it!
Best wishes,
Daniel
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message: 6
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:40:38 -0500
from: "scott young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Raised Intraocular pressure
Steve,
Some studies have demonstrated that wearing a necktie also increases
intraocular pressure. What makes this insidous is not the amount of
presure, but the fact that people wear them for 8 hours at a time. I
imagine it is the same with high pressure wind instruments.
Respectfully Submitted,
Scott
From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "'The Horn List'" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Raised Intraocular pressure
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:36:28 -0500
I find this difficult to accept, Ken. Glaucoma is too much pressure
inside
part of the eye - how would playing the horn contribute to such a
condition?
Holding one's breath can raise blood pressure, but even then it's only a
temporary condition - there is no cause and effect relationship between
playing the horn and high blood pressure that I'm aware of, having to deal
with bad conductors not withstanding, of course. :)
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I don't see how such a causal
relationship could exist.
-S-
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Raised Intraocular pressure
>
> I remember that here in Boston a few years ago NEMC was doing
> a study of increased incidences of Glaucoma amongst musicians
> - specifically those who play instruments which require
> internal pressure. The Oboists and the Horn players were
> found to have higher rates of Glaucoma! I suspect there are
> many on this list who can illuminate this fact far better than I can.
>
> (Does anyone know if Intraocular pressure is what causes our
> Computer screens to make lines if we watch them while we play
> our horns ((Only visible to the person buzzing their lips))?
>
> Ken Pope
>
> "Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow...."
> http://www.poperepair.com
> BONNA CASES IN STOCK!!
> Pope Instrument Repair
> 80 Wenham Street
> Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
> 617-522-0532
>
>
>
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message: 7
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:57:28 -0500
from: "Corno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: Re: [Hornlist] Need Bb Single Horn Advice
Paul Mansur wrote:
Among some users of Bb horns, consider these names: Harold Meek,
Willem Valkenier, Peter Damm, Mike Thompson, Ifor James, Alan Civil,
and a host of others as well as Dennis Brain. For a time the Berlin
Phil section was all Bb horns.
CORdially, Paul Mansur
Some additional names:
Arkady Yegudkin, the legendary horn teacher at the Eastman School, played
a
single Bb horn as principal in the Rochester Philharmonic. It was a
wonderful instrument. This horn probably influenced Harold Meek to play a
Bb
horn in the Rochester Philharmonic and Boston Symphony, since he studied
with Yegudkin. "The General" either gave or sold his horn to one of his
students, Harvey Garber (much to the chagrin of Yegudkin's other
students).
Harvey became principal horn in the San Antonio Symphony, and ultimately
donated the horn back to the Eastman School.
Another Bb horn user was Wendell Hoss, who was principal horn with the
Rochester, Los Angeles, Chicago, Cleveland, NBC, and Pittsburgh
symphonies,
and became a coveted studio musician in Hollywood. Hoss, of course, was a
founder of IHS and the Los Angeles Horn Club. His Bb horn is now owned by
Peter Kurau at the Eastman School.
Charles Valenza
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message: 8
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:24:45 -0500
from: Peter Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: John Graas - name that horn? (Graham,
Jarvis)
Charles,
An amazing story about the Olds. To have the presence of mind to grab your
horn and take it with you after your ship has been torpedoed is beyond
even my horn-obsessed brain.
You wouldn't know any more about exactly which California institution
Spike sent the Graas material to, would you? I'd be most interested in
delving into it. Working primarily as a music librarian and archivist
(when I'm not playing the horn) I imagine there is a fair chance that I
know it's current custodian and I'd like to contact them if only I knew
where they worked.
Anyhow, thanks for the information so far.
Peter Hirsch
<date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:13:00 -0500
<from: "Corno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: John Graas - name that horn? (Graham Jarvis)
<
<Hi Paul -
<
<I owned one of the Olds horns that you describe. It was a nice instrument
<that took me all of the way through Eastman. It was a beautiful horn,
with
<lovely engraving on the valve caps and kranz. And it had an interesting
<history. I bought the horn from Joe Casseli, an older Rochester hornist
whom
<I admired. Joe was in the Merchant Marine in World War II. When his ship
was
<torpedoed by a German U-Boat on the way to Murmansk (the Arctic Circle
port
<where the Allies supplied the Russians), he managed to get his horn
before
<the ship sank. Luckily, both he and the horn were rescued. I sold the
horn
<to a student, much to my later regret. I've hoped to see one on e-bay,
but
<no luck so far. In fact, if anyone owns or knows of one for possible
sale,
<please contact me off list. I'd love to buy it for old-times' sake.
<
<Incidentally, John Graas's Sansone 5-valve, single Bb horn mentioned in
<Graham Jarvis' earlier e-mail is owned by Spike Shaw (of Fripperies
fame).
<Coincidentally, my wife and I visited Spike and Ellen last weekend. (The
<Buffalo Philharmonic was playing Mahler's 1st -- spectacularly!) Spike
<showed me Graas's horn during a tour of his new digs. He bought it from
<Graas's widow, who also gave him several cartons of Graas memorabilia,
which
<Spike has now donated to some California institution which is archiving
the
<material.
<
<Charles Valenza
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message: 9
date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:25:47 -0600
from: "Susan McKeever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: [Hornlist] John Graas is my uncle
Hello,
I just read with great interest about my uncle John Graas' French horn. I
am a classically trained pianist but have been interested my whole life
in my uncle who died when I was 12 tears old.
Over the past 10 years I have collected every recording, movie, tv show I
could find about my uncle. Last summer I went to Ball State University
and studied everything they had there.
This past October I attended a really great concert of John's music at the
Los Angeles Jazz Institute's festival.
I am still in contact with my Aunt Jane (John's widow).
Susan Graas McKeever
www.tinyurl.com/dlagy
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message: 10
date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:44:43 -0500
from: Retired Prof 55 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: [Hornlist] Opportunities for performers
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