>From many letters by Mozart himself & by his father Leopold
we know that both were perfectionist, who would never have
allowed players of their (Mozarts) works to spoil these by
their own too often mediocre additions. Yes, it has been
usual, that the pianists played along with the orchestra,
but not with Mozartian pieces. Yes, they flourishes (boring)
passages by ornamentations, turns (mordent) etc., but also
not for Mozartian pieces, where it would destroy the strong
stylish demand. The Mozartian pieces as well as later
Schuberts compositions are unique in their simplicity ,
clarity, transparency & perfection and do not need ANY
embellishment. If one thinks, they would be bettered up -
may it be Dr.Levin, perhaps or another so called
Mozartologue - , they have not understood Mozart nor the
world where he or Schubert lived nor the character of the
people there.

Mozart says everything in perfection & very simple (= in
this content simple means CLEAN, in German words: "rein" ),
Schubert did the same. So they became the great composers.
Any addition would just be cheap & mediocre, as most players
who need these additions to make their playing more
interesting or interesting at all (in their own opinion !!).


Cadenzas, that´s a different thing. Surely, Mozart built in
some "cadenza points", also in the horn concertos, besides
the usual first movement cadenza, so to see the final rondos
in his three completed horn concertos. Surely, there is
space for a short , very short cadenza of just a few
measures. But what do we get to listen to, special during
auditions ? Players telling long more or less known excerpts
from other cadenzas in a most lengthy story, often mixed
with complete out of style elements & mixed with wrong
harmonic elements. And they play it in a stupid show off
manner not verse the culminating final trill, but until the
middle of the lengthy uninteresting & often caricaturesque
cadenza, where they get coordinating or breathing problems,
which results in a terrible uninteresting finale of the
cadenza.

If there are composers not to be touched or altered by no
ways, then they are Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven & R.Wagner.
Bach & Haendel are different, as they left some
embellishment & other ornamentations to the experience of
the players often.
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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:19 PM
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Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart and His Music

To help me understand performance during Mozart period, the
first question is about this part of the review of the
Mozart piano concerto.

07:09 AM CST on Friday, March 17, 2006
By OLIN CHISM / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning
News [. . .]

The most radical move toward Mozart's day is Mr. Levin's. He
gives the DSO more notes for its money, often playing along
during orchestral tuttis whereas most pianists sit them out,
throwing in some little flourishes and improvising the
cadenzas. All this is documented from the old days.
[. . .]

If I understand Mr. Chism correctly, this improvisation by
the pianist was
not unusual during Mozart age.   From Hans answer to my
original question,
this improvisation (if that is the proper term) was not the
accepted practice for horn players.  Do these two statements
accurately reflect the way music was performed in this
period?

If those statements are correct, why would one instrument
play exactly as the composer desired and the other
improvised during a performance? 


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