Klaus, you are right. Ganev & Ganove and also Gauner come from the same root. ============================================================ ====================
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Bjerre Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:30 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Bernstein in Vienna --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - wonderful stories snipped - > > Hans wrote: > > > One short episode: > > Some members had another gig & sneeked away from a rehearsal, > > letting a colleague do the duty instead. So Bernstein asked the > > orchestra president why they did so. The then president > > answered: "Well Maestro, all members want to participate on this > > production with you !!" - Bernstein: "I knew, you were all ganefs > > (or ganevs - should consult a yiddishj dictionary) !". He knew, all > > loved him. You can see that on the videos. > > The word "ganev" is indeed Yiddish, much of which originates in German > but some of which originates in Hebrew. A "ganav" is literally a > "thief" in modern Hebrew, the infinitive "to steal" being "Lignov," I'm pretty sure. > (Hebrew verbs are built around a three-consonant root, in this case the "g," > "n," and "v.") The term "ganev" often takes on a wider meaning of "crook" > or "rascal" or something along those lines. > > Steve "just ordered another of Han's mouthpieces" Freides I am not into languages not being Nordic-German or Roman, but the Hebrew reference implicit in Berstein's exclamation already made me think of the German words Ganove/Ganovin (male and female versions of what may be translated to crook in a very NHR sense). Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
