Hans,

Thanks for the posting below that focuses totally on clarification and the
maintenance of coherence and integrity in one's written expressions in a
listserv (not just this list)forum. I hope that all the members read is
closely and truly understand it.

My thoughts on it, addressed to the list at large, are as follow:

I have not been happy with the recent recurrence of personal attacks on the
list and have decided not to contribute to it by defending or attacking
anyone myself. I will stick to this, but just say that I can still consider
you (or anyone else) a valued colleague (and even a friend) despite direct
criticism or occasionally intemperately expressed opinions. Not everything
that I have ever posted on-line has come out exactly as I meant it, so I am
always willing to give the benefit of the doubt whenever I imagine I have
been "insulted" or negative comments are made about something that I might
hold near and dear. And, in the end, I have to consider the fact that
"nobody's perfect" and sometimes I can respect another list member while
living with what I might consider a defect in their personality.

Peace,

Peter Hirsch

<message: 11
<date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:00:15 +0200
<from: "hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<subject: [Hornlist] List related
<
<One has to distinguish between comments about a certain
<politic of a group or state AND the people within that
<group. People means individual persons. These persons might
<also disagree with the opinion of the relevant group &
<behave completely different. So, if one critizises a certain
<group behaviour, it does not mean critizising the
<individual. And, if one critizises the individual, it does
<not mean, critizising the whole group.
<
<If one quotes another letter, it is just fair, to quote the
<letter as it was AND let it unchanged. The quote might just
<be one paragraph or one sentence, but if the quote standing
<alone would have a different meaning as in the letter, one
<has to quote the WHOLE letter or the connected sentence or
<paragraph as well.
<
<If you do it differently (exceptions allowed when quoting
<funny typos etc.), you join the mass media & their daily
<false or altered quotes & the politicians.
<
<When you hang on your patriotic wave, why dont you concede
<others to be proud about the achievements & the history of
<their country and nation ? Every country has light & shadow,
<your country & my country or the country where we live.
<"Sippenhaftung" is as stupid as "racism". Digging into
<another persons private sphere in public, is very cheap, and
<the reaction should not surprise. And a certain person of a
<mature age MUST not tell another mature person how to
<behave. This is not a Kindergarten, even it seems so, at
<least sometimes.
<
<Yes, if you feel to critizise somebody in a humourous way,
<do it in a way, that the target person will understand your
<humour also.
<

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