Klaus:

I suggest you address your questions about Hans Hoyer directly to Christian Knopf, the current (fifth-generation) master horn maker at Herbert Fritz Knopf in Markneukirchen. His direct email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I interviewed Christian in 2002 for an article that was published in the Horn Call, he made no mention about Hoyer being a Meistergeselle in the workshop. This presumably would have been years before Christian, however, possibly during the time that his grandfather, Herbert Fritz, was still making the horns (he passed away in 1969). On the other hand, Hoyer could have been a master apprentice at the OTHER Knopf workshop, August Knopf. The last proprietor of that workshop, Edgar Knopf (Christian's cousin), closed it and retired almost 10 years ago in Markneukirchen. Christian might be of assistance in contacting him (he has no email as far as I know). In any event, there is still a lot of local knowledge, lore, tradition, and folk tales in Markneukirchen available so you should be able to get some confirmation of this.

You are quite right about the GDR trade and fiscal policies. Interestingly, most of the H.F. Knopf horns that came to the West during that period usually were sold to neutral countries, such as Austria and, for some reason, Spain. I suspect they were probably sold in the Scandinavian countries, too. Is that right? In any event, from those locales they seem to have "emigrated" to the NATO countries and even the USA. (I bought my first Knopf from a Vienna Symphony player while they were on tour in the States during the 1970s).

Currently, Christian Knopf is interested in finding a US distributor for his horns, which are custom instruments, but there seem to be no takers. Ironically, one of his biggest markets is Japan.

I hope this information is helpful.

Richard in Seattle

Klaus Bjerre wrote:
It may known, that Sven Bring of Stockholm and I over years have communicated 
on public and
private levels about brass matters in general and tuba matters in specific.

I ended my multi-brass career on tuba and probably played no brasses better 
than bassbone, euph,
and tuba. I am mentally very attracted to the low brasses and have many friends 
in these
communities. The sad fact is, that the web-communities for these instruments 
invariably, aside
from the Norwegian Norsk Tubaforum invariably is run by persons having neither 
education,
knowledge, culture, nor humour. But in general they read music very well.

Horn lists are pure heaven in comparison. So now Sven and I meet in horn-contexts.
Sven just bought a used Hoyer single Bb with 5 valves. It happens to be almost 
identical to my
sample from 1985.

Sven has issued a question on that matter. I am working on an answer and will 
tell my temporary
results.

Hoyer appears to have been Meistergeselle at the Knopf workshop. That is the 
German term for a
craftsman educated to be a master, but not yet having his own workshop � still 
working for his
educator.
The GDR industry structure appears to have changed to a more closely state 
monitored formation
sometime in the 1960-ies, which seems to have giving birth to the B&S VEB
(people-owned-conglomerate), where Hoyer became the Horn maker.

Hoyer horns appear to have been imported to Denmark from around 1965, but sadly 
all of my personal
source persons on this matter have passed away no later than 1992.

I am the house historian of the Copenhagen company of I. K. Gottfried owned by 
my friend Lars
Jonasson.  He runs the business, but I know a very few things about their 
inventory and library,
which he does not know. One item is a hugely formatted book about horn history 
including the Hoyer
upstart. I phoned Lars this morning about that book, but he could not find it. 
Shortly after he
phoned me back: one of his repairmen had pilfered that book for closer studies 
in a more homely
environment.

I will eventually be provided core information from that book, and I will 
relay, what I find
relevant.

I was not always impressed with GDR technology, but nobody will ever hear me 
out any doubts of the
craftsmanship of the GDR masters.

However the GDR was one big economy scam. Internally in the Warsaw pact the GDR 
in any matters but
aeronautics and maybe medicine was the technology leader. Their high end 
musical instruments were
dumped in the West at rock bottom prices with the single purpose to earn 
US$-convertible
currencies (Devisenbeschaffungsmaßnahmen).

The GDR makers like B&S used, what I call modular designs. that implied, that 
the second level
�Weltklang� (or whatever buyer-induced stencil engraving) instruments in all 
crucial acoustical
matters were made out of the same parts as the top line 
B&S-Hoyer-Scherzer-Wolfram brands.

The differences were these:

the valve transmissions were simpler � S-links over ball&socket

the assembly was carried out by apprentices and non-master journeymen

the number of valves especially in tubas and horns was lesser than ideal.

I remember finding a König (a Weltklang disguise) single Bb horn, which was 
absolutely marvellous
but for one matter: It only had 3 valves. A fact rendering it useless for my 
purposes.

On the Memphis based list I have written more thoroughly on the GDR scams as 
related to brasses
and d currency (Hans and I sometimes provoke each other to do our best). But I 
will cut this
posting for now.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre


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