Googling the french phrase cited, came across this hit: http://books.google.com/books?id=jYTiK1bwjqIC&pg=RA1-PA76&lpg=RA1-PA76&dq=ha uteur+r%C3%A9elle+music&source=web&ots=d7gpzc6l8V&sig=Q_ExHKSQqcgPeVFxX8D8Wl VtRfs
Within this page, "hauteur reelle" is translated as "the actual pitch". Fred -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of M. Elizabeth Fleming Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:34 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question Prior to orchestra rehearsal today, I was approached by a conducting student with a question in regards to a particular notation in the Ravel orchestration of /Pictures at an Exhibition/: In the first "movement", meaning "Gnomus", there is an indication in the second horn part of "hauteur réelle" above a printed B-flat 2 *stopped* (in the middle of the bass clef). My French is a just a tad rusty, but I believe it translates to "real height". Regardless, the only explanation for this indication that I can come up with is indicating a new notation reading of the bass clef. That, or there was some confusion at the time about sounding pitches of stopped tones, and Ravel wanted to indicate that the B-flat should be the tone that sounds (not the tone that is fingered). I apologize for the convoludedness of this message, but hopefully someone more seasoned than I (which includes a good chunk of the readership of this list) will catch my drift and enlighten me, so that I, in turn, may enlighten him. Best, Elizabeth _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org