Hello Klaus, as the Missa was written after 1796, horns (or
crooks) in Bb-basso (I owned just one from mid 19th cen.) or
a coupler to be used with C-basso crook was possible. But
Haydn liked the horn sound & the trumpet sound & often used
them to play< uniso, to give the horns a more silvery sound
& to soften the trumpets. This mixed sound was his ideal
obviously, a sound one might not listen too very often
today. As for all works of this particular time, the horns
must be played very light, no heavy sound, no pounding ! Too
often  we can hear horns sound like oven pipes or like
castrated alto-trombones today. And it is mere nonsense to
carry a full double or even worse a full triple & not using
all sound-color-possibilities.

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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse

Technically very easy!

But there is a problem!

I took part in rehearsals and performance, and asked whether
Bb alto or Bb basso. The conductor said basso. Which I since
have realised being wrong.

One of the last movements has a simple horn duo with the
trumpets accompanying. This setting makes no sense at all
with horns in Bb basso.  Since then I have read Hans Pizka
saying that Haydn would set Bb trumpets and Bb horns in the
same octave. Not a normal pattern, but then Bb (and rarily
C) are the only keys which in the classical repertory may
cause doubt whether up or down.

The Bb alto reading takes reasonably secure players. 

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre


--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Tim Costen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> From: Tim Costen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse
> To: "The Horn List" <horn@music.memphis.edu>
> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 4:19 PM Dear Hornlist,
> 
> Without wanting to put anyone to undue trouble, can
someone give me a 
> rough idea about the horn parts for the Haydn
"Harmoniemesse"? I been 
> asked to help find someone to play first horn in a concert
which 
> includes this, and want to make sure that whoever I
suggest is 
> suitable for the job (the rest of the programme is not too
hard).
> 
> Tim
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