Why dont you push the trigger & hold it to get F tonality & add 1 & 3 to
get a perfect C-Horn & then continue to play Mozarts coronation mass on
a mere C-basso natural horn. It works. I do not remember, if Mozart used
any manipulated tone during this composition. Explore the C-basso-horn
with few arpeggios. That´s it. Very simple.

If there is G-horn, use Bb plus 1&2. 

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-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:21:01 +0100
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] thumb lever action
From: daniel.canaru...@unifi.it
To: horn@music.memphis.edu

First, many thanks to Bob Osmun and Paul Navarro: the matter worked  
exactly as described, though at first I feared I couldn't undo the  
lock ring on the articulated arm; but eventually it gave up easily,  
and then it was a matter of two minutes.

Thanks also to Hans, even if this time I'm trying something which is  
not according to his advise.

I now have more than two weeks till the next rehearsal, and that's the  
reason why I thought I'd try this right now. I practiced a couple of  
hours this morning (and played my daughter's Hoyer in the last two  
days). When I play only in Bb, then I'd say I have no big problem. The  
main difficulty is switching from Bb to F and back. I prefer g2 and  
f#2 on the F horn, so certain passages won't come at the proper speed,  
for the moment. We'll see. It's funny to think that, right now, I'd  
even have difficulties coming through a fairly easy C-horn program I  
played recently (Mozart's Coronation Mass and Concerto for Flute and  
Harp).

On the other hand I feel less tension on average, and that seems to  
make some things easier.

If I think of it, it's also an interesting experiment on how my brain  
works: trying to change 40-years old habits. Of course I'm interested  
in knowing about similar experiences.

Daniel
mathematical physicists & dedicated amateur hornist

----- Messaggio da irich...@flash.net ---------
     Data: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:12:29 -0600

> Daniel,
>
> When I was in my mid-30's, I tried reversing the thumb valve action on
> my Moennig horns - they are engineered for it, so it was simple to do.
> My idea was to make the double horn and descant horn fingerings
> consistent (and single Bb would fall out as well). I found that 20
> years of habit was a great obstacle to overcome. I tried for about two
> years, but I could never get the fingerings to come automatically and
> finally gave up. When I returned all horns to their original settings,
> there was hardly any residual habit to get rid of. On the other hand,
> Dale Clevenger could pick up horns set up either way and immediately
> play with ease and facility - his horns stand in Bb.
>
> When you get the linkage reversed, let us know how you do.
>
> Regards,
> Richard Hirsh


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