On 2012-01-26 20:50, Pierre GIRAUD wrote:
Hi all,

In the following document, I put together the most interesting
feedback comments contributors made about the tasking manager. The
bolder words are those I paid attention to.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fogj124ykXWXCcMgMKjMZosquiVzxDe5_pN4Pt7SL8Q/edit

I would sum up things with the following list of feature requests:

  - split tasks:
Many users asked for this feature. It now looks obvious that mapping
main roads, minor roads or buildings represents a complete different
work. A job should be separated into different "tasks". Each task
would be materialized by a type of feature to map as well as a tile
(or area) size.
I started to design this new workflow. Please check it out here:
http://bluecarto.free.fr/hot_ts_wireframe/osmtm_v2.pdf

That could really help getting a broader involvement even by people not willing to do the highest detail level. I'm wondering whether it might be even better if you could cross off all subtasks you've done on the tile you were working on? Like Swaziland's country-side has some areas with very few to none buildings, where you could map everything in a few minutes and mark off all subtasks with very few clicks, instead of re-taking the tile several times. This also ties in with the sub-division of tiles and the exclusion of water areas (which are a pain too).

  - help mappers to communicate with each other:
Would a chat per job (in-the-page as in Facebook) help?

I'm myself ain't the big chatter, but this triggered the following train of thought:

It'd be great to have an area where mapping standards could be discussed/defined. It is often hard for an outsider to identify major vs. minor roads in foreign countries. This could be on the osm-wiki and should include links to already well-mapped areas and/or identified screenhots of features on the available aerials from the area.

Perhaps this should even become an integral part of the task description? A few well-mapped segments as task-seed could also go a long way towards a shared understanding of the required/expected/available accuracy and information density.

  - second subdivision (1 tile into a 2x2 grid) for complicated areas:
I agree that this would be a nice yet useful feature. I think however
that this it's not easy to develop. I can think a bit more about it if
you think that this is a must-have.

If this is too hard, a "partially done" status for the intense tiles might be sufficient? This could also tie in in with the subtasks: perhaps insert "Do X in the NW/NE/SW/SE corner of the tile" as checkable sub-task.

Another idea here would be to be able to take multiple tiles at a time and reduce the tile-size further. For example, halve the area of a tile but allow the "checkout" of 8 tiles at once. That way in the city center you'd fetch one and be done with it and in the country-side you can fetch multiples, e.g. along a major road and fix-up that first.

The annoying aspect - for me - was always the jarring flow breaker of having to wait until josm (even via remote) has loaded the next tile. If I could go through and add a bunch of expected sea-tiles in one swoop, download it once and the check them through for islands and stuff, that would totally go away, even with substantially smaller tiles.

Thanks for your feedbacks (again).


Thanks for your coding! I'm already looking forward to these changes ;-)



Best Regards, David

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