Re: validation workflow I there should be some feedback loop to let the original mapper know what else should be added etc. to enhance the learning process.
Sent from my phone. May contain incom plete thoughts. On Jan 13, 2013, at 7:00, [email protected] wrote: > Send HOT mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of HOT digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required (Pierre GIRAUD) > 2. Re: [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required > (Augustin Doury) > 3. Re: [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required > (Rafael Avila Coya) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:18:44 +0100 > From: Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> > To: HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]> > Subject: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required > Message-ID: > <CAOZv5anr5KHr7ac7F0t=vzVkzQDT0B+m+rVRr5VOb=j56je...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, especially the tasking manager users, > > I've been working on an enhancement for the tasking manager for a while > now. I think it's almost ready, but I would like to have your thoughts and > feedback. > I don't want to impose something that people find useless or with which > they don't feel confident. If you don't feel like this is an enhancement, > well let's forget about it. > > However, for the more enthusiastic, I invite you to go to the dev server > [1]. > > The most important (new) things to notice are: > - tiles can be accessed in a read-only mode, > - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to be > shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as reference in > a discussion between mappers, > - you need to explicitly lock the tile before working on it, > - comments are now required when marking a task as done or (in)validating > one, > - users have access to the tile change history. > > Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings. > > Thanks. > > Off topic question: > I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user wants to > (in)validate the work done on a job. > How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should rethink > the validation process. > Any thoughts? > > Pierre > > [1] http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > | Pierre GIRAUD > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20130112/d1ef4d5a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:39:20 +0000 > From: Augustin Doury <[email protected]> > To: Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> > Cc: HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required > Message-ID: > <caoo3qzuiiaaix2z7gh1vo0vzpqbhn2uia3ertyhvtdc8c9n...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments : > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to be >> shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as reference in >> a discussion between mappers, >> > >> this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to have > their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like every week. > > >> >> - comments are now required when marking a task as done or (in)validating >> one, >> > >> great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain what > kind of comment is expected, >> maybe the person who create the job could choose this informative message. > > >> - users have access to the tile change history. >> > >> this is a real enhancement too I think > > >> >> Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings. >> > > Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page : > > By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to : > > - know which tile he has edited > - know which tile he has marked as "done" > - which tile he has validated > - and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode. > Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find which tile > you have worked on yesterday. > > > >> >> Thanks. >> >> Off topic question: >> I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user wants to >> (in)validate the work done on a job. >> How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should rethink >> the validation process. >> Any thoughts? >> > >> when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to validate > or invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click on "unlock-it"... > I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for everybody > but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way and don't > validate or invalidate a task by mistake. > > >> >> Pierre >> >> [1] http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> | Pierre GIRAUD >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > -- > Augustin Doury > Openstreetmap Senegal Community Mobilizer > Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team (HOT) > +221773160902 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20130112/0fd22bf6/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:17:26 +0100 > From: Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks for this great job, Pierre! > > I mostly agree with all what Augustin says, except for the offtopic > question. > > Following my experience, I needed some times to access a tile that was > already validated because I considered that some features were not > finished yet, in opposition to what the validator thought. In my > opinion, one already validated tile should always, not only be available > for editing, but even to be invalidated (make it red color again). > Perhaps this should also require a compulsory comment, to tell the > former validator why the "invalidator" took that decision. > > Another thing that I don't fancy very much is the automatic zoom when > you click in one tile. I prefer the more static one that we had until now. > > All in all, I consider this new version a good enhancement from the > previous one. > > Cheers, > > Rafael ?vila Coya. > > On 12/01/13 22:39, Augustin Doury wrote: >> Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments : >> >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to >> be shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as >> reference in a discussion between mappers, >> >> >>> this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to have >>> their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like every week. >> >> >> >> - comments are now required when marking a task as done or >> (in)validating one, >> >> >>> great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain what >> kind of comment is expected, >>> maybe the person who create the job could choose this informative message. >> >> >> - users have access to the tile change history. >> >> >>> this is a real enhancement too I think >> >> >> >> Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings. >> >> >> Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page : >> >> By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to : >> >> - know which tile he has edited >> - know which tile he has marked as "done" >> - which tile he has validated >> - and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode. >> Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find >> which tile you have worked on yesterday. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Off topic question: >> I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user >> wants to (in)validate the work done on a job. >> How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should >> rethink the validation process. >> Any thoughts? >> >> >>> when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to validate or >>> invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click on "unlock-it"... >> I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for >> everybody but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way and >> don't validate or invalidate a task by mistake. >> >> >> >> Pierre >> >> [1] http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> | Pierre GIRAUD >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> -- >> Augustin Doury >> Openstreetmap Senegal Community Mobilizer >> Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team (HOT) >> +221773160902 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > -- > -------------------------------- > > Por favor, non me env?e documentos con extensi?ns .doc, .docx, .xls, > .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, a?nda podendoo facer, non os abro. > > Atendendo ? lexislaci?n vixente, empregue formatos est?ndares e abertos. > > http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > End of HOT Digest, Vol 35, Issue 13 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
