Thank you to both Pierre's for the suggestions!

Amrit figured out how to work the Relation ID. He'll share how he did so
shortly.


On 15 February 2013 17:45, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:14:27 -0500
> From: Tom Taylor <[email protected]>
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> Subject: Re: [HOT] Monday 5pm EST Re:  brainstorm on membership,
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> Just thinking of governance: I participate in the Internet Engineering
> Task Force (IETF). They do not have membership, but operate by consensus
> and a well-defined procedure for maintaining their steering body, the
> Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG). The IESG has a lot of power,
> but members' terms are two years, renewable. The different members have
> different subject areas, but all final results are achieved by
> consensus. This process of consensus extends to the operation of the
> different working groups that tackle specific problems. I can give more
> details if there is interest.
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> In any event, on the matter of consensus, a document has recently been
> published by one of the IESG members. I haven't read it myself yet, but
> it has garnered praise from other people. It is generally applicable,
> though slanted toward the IETF. It is at
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-resnick-on-consensus
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> Hope this is helpful.
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> Tom Taylor
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> On 12/02/2013 9:32 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:
> > Thanks, that was a productive kick off.
> >
> >
> > Notes compiled here (thanks Heather!)
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z54XlB1Yszk1HrtrDJD724l6-ZIZtfso_8v5lRiEdDA/edit?disco=AAAAAFkkndw#
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> > The IRC log is posted
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> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups/Bylaws/Brainstorm_20130211
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> > The Bylaws themselves weren't visible on HOT's website. I've updated
> permissions, should be accessible now.
> > http://hot.openstreetmap.org/our_board/incorporation
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> > We had some emerging next steps, especially documenting the various
> roles in HOT, particularly (in my view) a membership and contributor guide
> to HOT.
> > Please step up if you are ready to push ahead!
> > Perhaps next meeting we can have some draft documents to discuss.
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> > Cheers
> > -Mikel
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> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:05:38 +0545
> From: Ryan Sommerville <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [HOT] Creating job on Tasking Manager with accurate border
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> We're creating a job for the Kathmandu Valley and want to use the perimeter
> of all the wards that make up the valley. This cannot be accurately traced
> using the "Draw it yourself" option.
>
> When using "OSM relation ID" our knowledge/experience has led us to define
> the border of the area as a "way" but this does not work.
>
> Could you please advise how we create a "relation" from the "way"?
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> Thank you!
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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:24:50 +0100
> From: Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]>
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> I thought that the "use an OSM relation ID" was not used or very little. I
> seems like I was wrong.
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> Can you point me to the relation you just created?
>
> Pierre
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> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Sommerville <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > We're creating a job for the Kathmandu Valley and want to use the
> > perimeter of all the wards that make up the valley. This cannot be
> > accurately traced using the "Draw it yourself" option.
> >
> > When using "OSM relation ID" our knowledge/experience has led us to
> define
> > the border of the area as a "way" but this does not work.
> >
> > Could you please advise how we create a "relation" from the "way"?
> >
> > Thank you!
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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:36:08 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Pierre B?land <[email protected]>
> To: Ryan Sommerville <[email protected]>,
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> Ryan,
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> I find also easier to use a relation. I suggest that you create a polygon
> with just a few points representing roughly the valley. Then, integrate
> this polygon in the relation.
>
>
> ?
> Pierre
>
>
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> >________________________________
> > De?: Ryan Sommerville <[email protected]>
> >??: [email protected]
> >Envoy? le : Jeudi 14 f?vrier 2013 7h20
> >Objet?: [HOT] Creating job on Tasking Manager with accurate border
> specification
> >
> >
> >We're creating a job for the Kathmandu Valley and want to use the
> perimeter of all the wards that make up the valley. This cannot be
> accurately traced using the "Draw it yourself" option.
> >
> >
> >When using "OSM relation ID" our knowledge/experience has led us to
> define the border of the area as a "way" but this does not work.?
> >
> >
> >Could you please advise how we create a "relation" from the "way"?
> >
> >
> >
> >Thank you!
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:48:04 +0800
> From: maning sambale <[email protected]>
> To: HOT <[email protected]>
> Subject: [HOT] some hot export jobs not completed "error in CDE"
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> I filed an issue ticket at github:
> https://github.com/hotosm/hot-exports/issues/4
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> cheers,
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