Hi all, I'm currently trying to do a quick and dirty addition to the tasking manager to manager the given link in the task instructions. I hope I will have something working soon.
Pierre On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ben Abelshausen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm here in Cameroon with some of the EUROSHA people helping out a little > (with Jorieke Vyncke) and I have some pratical questions. > > We have been working for the past couple of days to convert the existing > shapefiles to OSM format (converting to the correct tags etc...). Before we > mentioned our plan was to serve the data with the tasking manager and allow > the verification (when possible) and mapping of the data into OSM. > > One of the files of the converted data containing localities is available > already for DRC: > > http://www.osmsharp.com:815/data/144/129/8/WRI_RDC_localities_2009.osm (the > localities) > > This data would be served in a task at zoom level 8 at location 144 - 129. > > My questions is now: Do we continue with this work or do you guys think this > 'conversion->taskingmanager->mapping' way of working is not the way to go > for this data? The eurosha group here thinks this is the best solution > because, similar to what Mikel was saying, this way we are involving the OSM > community in general and the data is veryfied before 'importing'. > > AND: Thanks again to pascal and WRI!! > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Best regards, > > Ben Abelshausen > [email protected] <[email protected]> > http://twitter.com/xivk <http://twitter.com/xivk> > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pascal Douard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey Mikel, >> >> Just may be to give an info, the road had been collected through Landsat >> images observation and completed with GPS field observation. >> >> Some of the logging roads had been provided by the timber companies, >> sometimes one track for a network of roads. >> >> As I mentioned yesterday to the Eurosha-team, I will be providing the >> latest road network we have for CAR and DRC, from late 2012. It won’t be >> helping at a town scale but more at the national scale. >> >> I also would be interested to participate to a mapping party if this can >> help. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pascal >> >> >> >> Pascal Douard >> >> GIS Research Associate, People and Ecosystems >> >> World Resources Institute >> >> 10 G Street, NE, Suite 800 >> >> Washington, DC 20002 USA >> >> www.WRI.org >> >> >> >> Direct: +1 202-729-7652 >> >> [email protected] | Skype:pascalfromauvergne | Twitter: @worldresources >> >> >> >> WRI focuses on the intersection of the environment and socio-economic >> development. We go beyond research to put ideas into action, working >> globally with governments, business, and civil society to build >> transformative solutions that protect the earth and improve people’s lives. >> >> >> >> From: Mikel Maron [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:42 AM >> To: Jorieke Vyncke; Pierre Béland; Pascal Douard >> Cc: [email protected] >> >> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by >> the rebels >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Great news on the data release. I've been working with this data as well >> in another context, and we have noticed good accuracy in many places, >> varying accuracy in others. So data import should be constructed as not only >> conflation with existing OSM data, but also comparison to other data sources >> (bing imagery, as it is ... though can be hard to judge with the canopy). >> >> >> >> And even better would be involvement of the community of folks who are >> working with this data in Central Africa, and here in DC. If we can develop >> a community around this import, and the ongoing improvement and use of the >> data, going to be a strong initiative. There are several organizations here, >> and WRI is hq'd here. I don't know as much about WRI's operation in Central >> Africa, and how the data was originally collected, but what I'm thinking >> about is something like a series of multi-city, time focused, mapping party >> activities. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> -Mikel >> >> >> >> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Jorieke Vyncke <[email protected]> >> To: Pierre Béland <[email protected]>; [email protected] >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 3:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by >> the rebels >> >> >> >> Hi Pierre, >> >> Thanks for your mail! >> >> >> >> About the license: the data of the World Resource Institute is compatible >> with the license: ODbL. We got the signed permission from Pascal Douard from >> the World Resource Institute. You can find the authorization in the >> attachment. At this moment we are also working on a wiki page with more >> information about the data >> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Central_Africa_Import). >> >> >> >> After our first analysis of the data, we considered the data of very high >> quality. For Cameroon it is even the best data we have in comparing with all >> the other data we could collect. You can find their data on the website of >> the WRI, but the specific links to the data of which we have the permission; >> you can find it on the authorization in the attachment. Pascal also promised >> us to give us, as soon as possible (after their verification), the latest >> version of the data of the road network of the CAR and the DRC. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> Jorieke >> >> >> Okay... the attachment is not working... but you will find the >> authorisations soon on the wiki! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/3/25 Pierre Béland <[email protected]> >> >> >> Hi Jorieke >> >> >> >> This is very interesting to have the possibility to collaborate with >> people on the ground and use eventually imports to have a better map. In the >> context of humanitarian activations, it is important to work in a coordinate >> manner and discuss before such imports are done. >> >> >> >> First, we have to be careful and before importing any data into OSM, we >> have to follow a strict procedure to assure that the data is published with >> a license compatible with ODbL. We have to know the original producer of the >> data, how it was collected, and evaluate how good is the georeferencing. We >> also have to validate if the license is compatible. Do you have any >> information about that? >> >> >> >> I coordinate the current activation in DR Congo with Claire Halleux. I >> would like to look at the data that is contained in these files and see how >> it can help us for the DRC Activation before anything is setup with these >> files. >> >> >> Could you please send me a copy of this data? >> >> >> >> Pierre >> >> ________________________________ >> >> De : Jorieke Vyncke <[email protected]> >> À : [email protected]; [email protected] >> >> Envoyé le : Lundi 25 mars 2013 12h53 >> Objet : Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the >> rebels >> >> >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> >> >> Here a message from (a part) of the Eurosha-team who was working till the >> end of December in the Central-African Republic, and had to move because of >> the security situation. We are really glad to see your activity on the >> current crisis in the Central-African Republic. >> >> >> >> At this moment we are working in Cameroon, for Cameroon, but of course >> also for the CAR! Last week we obtained the permission to use the data of >> the World Recourse Institute (WRI) for the CAR and the DRC. This data >> (localities, road network, etc) can be very useful for the humanitarian >> actors on the field at this moment. For this reason we are now busy with >> setting up as soon as possible the importation process. And it is in this we >> need some help of you guys. >> >> >> >> Because we don’t really like the massive data importations as this would >> conflict with the existing data and could get very messy, we propose a >> crowd-sourced way to verify and import the data using the tasking manager. >> We have converted the existing shapefiles to OSM-XML format already and have >> setup a service that can serve the data into JOSM as follows: >> >> >> >> http://www.osmsharp.com:815/data/16748/10966/15/matrix.osm >> >> >> >> The data served is just a test area; the real converted data will be there >> soon. A request like this will return only data inside the requested tile. >> Any existing OSM file can very quickly be served on the site this way. >> >> We think it would be a very efficient and nice way to process and convert >> the data into OSM using the tasking manager if we could add a field or link >> to it that could load the data from the above url straight into JOSM or >> provide it as a download link in the task itself. >> >> >> >> Using this method all the humanitarian-relevant data can be converted and >> imported very quickly. But this means we need help from somebody to modify >> the tasking manager just a little bit to make this possible. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> The EUROSHA TEAM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- | Pierre GIRAUD ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
