> > I created this page to bring together all the developing country tagging > issues and approaches. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Developing_Country_Infrastructure >
Excellent. Good to have somewhere public to discuss issues. Yea, or maybe just barrier=dry_bush. Would be added to the "Linear > Barriers" section. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Barrier > Ok, I can add it there with a photo example. > > I'd also suggest to add the intermittent tag to the HOT presets for > rivers and streams. Virtually all rivers and streams in northern Kenya are > intermittent. Possibly combine the preset with the > > seasonal tag. > > Makes sense, looks like there are a couple approaches in use. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent > Yeah, now also discussed in another thread here. > For making a change in the HOT presets, fork the github repo, make the > change we think works best, and make the pull request. Should be able to do > all of that from within your web browser, let me know if I can help. > > https://github.com/hotosm/presets > Ok, will try to add intermittent and seasonal, and possibly add some instructions based on the outcome of the other thread. > Lastly I'd suggest a consensus on when to use highway=track or > highway=residential within villages. In small villages where the "road" is > more of a track, only suitable for 4WD's, then it > > feels more logical using track even within residential areas. It makes > it stand out from "real roads". > I agree, highway=residential denotes something different. But then, how to > differentiate highway=track, which might connect a great distance, between > something within a village? Or do we even need to differentiate these two? > I don't think we really need to differentiate if a track is within a village or not. It's not always easy to know where the village begins and ends and a track is a track. And a track mainly for cars that connects one village to another should possibly be highway=unclassified, in combination with surface=unpaved or similar? Although the wiki says<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified> for UK: "UK: unsurfaced country roads ("green lanes") should be tagged as highway=track if they are unfit for standard motorcar usage but available to 4x4, bikes and foot usage." More difficult might be to differentiate between a track and a path, although I suppose tracktype=<grade1-5> (and/or smoothness?) could be used to tell how good it is for vehicles. But in a small village even a path might be used by 4WD's... Details perhaps, but interesting and somehow important nevertheless. /Daniel > > -Mikel > > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Daniel Westergren <[email protected]> > *To:* Mikel Maron <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Pierre Béland <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:02 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Kenyan or African OSM community? > > > 2013/8/23 Mikel Maron <[email protected]> > > > I think it would be great with a tagging page for Africa or even more > generally for "subtropical" regions > > Agreed, we could build off the North Africa tagging page (either > incorporate content there, or just rename the page). I'm not sure the best > way to capture all of it with a name ... subtropics/tropics doesn't capture > all areas which might have this kind of infrastructure, nor do all areas > there have this kind of infrastructure (ie Florida vs N India). "Developing > Infrastructure" might work? (Of course, any definition of developing is > problematic...) > > > I'd suggest renaming the page to avoid confusion. Perhaps Africa to start > with and extend it to whatever term is better to include countries > traditionally referred to as "developing countries". Or why not even use > that term, since it's well established, although criticized? Then mappers > can find it more easily, possibly redirect from terms like "Africa", "South > America" and "India" as well. > > Also the Mali Highway > page<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mali_Highway_tag>should be renamed to > the name of its page: Highway Tag Africa, or similar. > > Is there an established workflow for adding new recommendations on those > wiki pages? > > A couple of other questions that have come up relating tags in "developing > countries": > > - How to tag a fence of dry bushes laid on the ground to protect from > animals? Particularly in northern Kenya it's common to fence the enclosure > where animals stay at night, as well as the entire enclosure for a > family/families, that way. Hedge refers more to planted living bushes. > Perhaps barrier=dry_bushes? > - I'd also suggest to add the intermittent tag to the HOT presets for > rivers and streams. Virtually all rivers and streams in northern Kenya are > intermittent. Possibly combine the preset with the seasonal tag. > - Lastly I'd suggest a consensus on when to use highway=track or > highway=residential within villages. In small villages where the "road" is > more of a track, only suitable for 4WD's, then it feels more logical using > track even within residential areas. It makes it stand out from "real > roads". > > > > > When are you next in Kenya? > > > I'll be in Kenya in August next year. But I'm also trying to engage those > who helped mapping parts of northern Kenya with Google Mapmaker. Leonard > Ouma, a former Google Mapmaker advocate in Kenya, has already introduced > himself on this list and will engage his fellow mapper friends too. > > > This is addictive! :D > > /Daniel > > >
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