Hi Pierre: I am merging all the impassable roads info provided by the US NGA. I am almost finished.
I am using only status=impassable + typhoon:damage=yes tags that we have in the workflow of job 350 of the task manager, plus "source=NGA Damage assessment report-11/17/2013" as suggested by Bruno Remy, in order not to have any inconsistency with the rest of jobs. Cheers, Rafael. On 19/11/13 17:55, Pierre Béland wrote: > I just want to say that is is important to work in a coordinated fashion > for this Activation. The proposals should be discussed with the > Coordination team. Once you have looked at some propositions, we can > discus this on the #hot IRC or on the Mumble talk.hotosm.org server. > > Various products use OSM data to produce printed maps. Routing Appl. > such as OSMR expect specific Tags to indicate road blocages. So we need > to have a coordinated approach for this. > > For the contributors, when editing, you should follow instructions in > the various Task Manager workflow. In this section of the Task Manager > Job, we provide tags to use. > > Any agreement coming out of these discussions will be reflected in the > Task Manager jobs. > > Thanks for looking at this anyway. > > Pierre > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De :* Bruno Remy <[email protected]> > *À :* Stéphane Henriod <[email protected]>; Rafael Avila Coya > <[email protected]> > *Cc :* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Envoyé le :* Mardi 19 novembre 2013 6h34 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] NGA Damage assessment report > > I agrre with raphael: > > typhoon:damage=limited > typhoon:damage=moderate > typhoon:damage=extensive > > cheers > > > > Le mardi 19 novembre 2013 5h04, Stéphane Henriod <[email protected]> a écrit : > +1 for typhoon_Haiyan:damage > > -- > "Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants > malheureux" -- Albert Einstein > > "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason > enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet > soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- Nicolas Bouvier > > Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info > <http://www.henriod.info/> > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rafael Avila Coya > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi, > > typhoon_2013:damage=xxx could improve the situation, but you would > still have tag garbage if you don't update/delete those tags after the > buildings are repaired. > > In any case, typhoon_2013:damage could be deleted after a certain time > with a bot. > > I would suggest typhoon_Haiyan:damage instead, as there can be more > than one typhoon in 2013, though. > > Cheers, > > Rafael. > > On 19/11/13 10:06, Stéphane Henriod wrote: >> Hi > >> the only concern I have with > >> typhoon:damage=limited typhoon:damage=moderate >> typhoon:damage=extensive > >> is the tracking over time: how will we deal with this tag when the >> next typhoon hits? We cannot assume that every single building will >> be updated once rebuilt (typhoon:damage=none, e.g.). So we might >> end up with an inconsistent database over time... > >> what about something in the line of typhoon_2013:damage=xxx ? > >> Cheers > >> Stéphane > >> -- "Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants >> malheureux" -- Albert Einstein > >> "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be >> reason enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a >> journey, yet soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- >> Nicolas Bouvier > >> Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info > <http://www.henriod.info/> >> <http://www.henriod.info/> > > >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Rafael Avila Coya >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I was merging some of the impassable roads into OSM yesterday. > >> The first atribute is not useless; it's just an abbreviation of >> the second. > >> I was tagging "source=US NGA", but your suggestion it's ok too. I >> could just change it, no problem. > >> For the damage intensity, why not to use the typhoon:damage one, >> that we already have? Like this: > >> typhoon:damage=limited typhoon:damage=moderate >> typhoon:damage=extensive > >> Cheers, > >> Rafael. > >> On 19/11/13 04:13, Bruno Remy wrote: >>> Hi, > >>> NGA Files contains some attributs that we do not use in OSM >>> Database. Exemple: "Damage_"="LD" "Damage_Ext"="LIMITED" or >>> "MODERATE" "Production"="11/17/2013" > >>> The first one is useless, so we can ignore it for importation. >>> The third one can be changed to " source"="NGA Damage assessment >>> report-11/17/2013" > >>> But the 'Damage_Ext' provides some accurate information about >>> the intensity of damage (limited/moderate/extensive) and should >>> be strategic to give some priority for humanitarian help >>> (healthcare) or reconstruction help (ingenneers, construction, >>> etc...) > >>> So : should we keep or not these tags, and if so, witch tags >>> should be appropriate? > >>> Suggestion : "NGA:damage_intensity"="limited" > >>> Regards, > >>> Bruno > > > > >>> Le lundi 18 novembre 2013 12h08, Vivien Deparday >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> a >> écrit : Hi all, a bit of feedback on >>> this instruction for road damage assessment that are on the >>> tasks, I think they could be clarified a bit: > >>> - while reviewing a post disaster task (350), I have found a >>> road duplicate that had been created just to mark the damage on >>> it instead of marking the existing pre-disaster road. This is >>> currently not very clear in the workflow description, it says >>> 'Please make a segment covering the damages and mark it' . The >>> 'make' could mean create a new road or it could mean split the >>> existing one to mark only the affected part of the roads. I >>> suppose it is the latter but it could be made a bit clearer like >>> it is written in capital for the buildings. > >>> - Also, it is not very clear how the road obstacle and the >>> impassable section should be marked and related to each other. >>> Do you mark the whole road as impassable from one road block to >>> the other but then you do really need to mark the road blocks >>> themselves? I suppose it would still be useful to mark them if >>> they are road blocks that are in the middle of an impassable >>> section because then one can know how many debris have to be >>> removed. If there is a section of road between two road blocks >>> that had no debris, should it be marked passable or impassable >>> (since you cannot get to it), etc...? It seems like all the road >>> blocks should be added to the existing roads as new nodes >>> belonging to the road and marked as barrier, and also each >>> segment between the road blocks should be marked as impassable? >>> It seems like that shouldn't mess the database? Anyone with more >>> experience on that? > >>> Once there is agreement, it should be described clearly on the >>> workflow tab, maybe with a link to a wikipage with more details. > >>> I just had a look at the shapefile from NGA and they are only >>> road segment marked as impassable. > >>> Cheers, > >>> Vivien GFDRR Labs > > >>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Pierre Béland >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> The tags to be used for tagging roads are described in the >>> Workflow panel of Task Manager job >>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350 > >>> If any questions, dont hesitate to contact us or come discuss on >>> the #HOT Irc. > >>> Thanks to all, > >>> Pierre > > > >> _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya -------------------------------- Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. 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