Hi,

On the subject of validation.

As someone who now spends most of their mapping time validating, I think we 'sell' it the wrong way. I only use the validation button in JOSM now if I think I am going to find something, and generally use the HOT-Validate paint Style (Well worth trying if you're a JOSM user, even if you don't validate). But I think even that is too much of a requirement. I have seen some excellent mapping by iD & Potlatch users & I would like to see some of them carrying out validating - if they are capable of mapping to such a high standard then they are perfectly capable of zooming in to look at others work & saying 'yes', 'yes but', or 'no'. I rarely use the 'no' option and to be honest it could just as easily be an experienced mapper because it generally means there is a significant portion of the square not mapped (I like to think the imagery didn't load properly & that was why they missed the village entirely!)

Mapping =
I'd like to see us rewrite the manuals, wiki's, slideshows etc., so they show mapping for HOT needs roads connected, traced at a suitable scale & classed more or less correctly (I don't think we should get too hung up about this - its often only when you are looking at an area of several squares in size that you can work out which are the primary, secondary, tertiary etc - get it traced, tag what it looks like & make sure that someone with an overview alters the tags later if need be). Buildings square or round and as accurate as they can be within reason. Rivers traced. leisure= common & amenity=school where appropriate - anything else specific to the project.

Validating=
Make sure that Mapping = was done ok.

It would be good to offer variety to our mappers & validating, if sold correctly, is not difficult & can be very rewarding. 99% of the time I'm making comments like 'All looks good, thanks'. Occasionally it's something like 'Looks good, but can you join the roads to each other & not the landuse=residential boundary. I've sorted it this time', I worried for a while about sending messages to mappers about ways they could improve, but the feedback I've had from those concerned has been good, and I make sure I only send a message if it's obvious the person is making the same mistake consistently - a point in case being round huts which are not obvious unless someone points them out. (wiki entry about validating http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data if I've interested you).

I'd still like a tick box in the TM so that when I want to send my comments to the mapper, I can easily do so. But I don't think that is as important as allowing mappers easier access to the validators comments.

Just a few thoughts - by the way, I'd welcome help from anyone who fancies doing more validating! If you'd like it, I'm quite happy to validate your validations until you feel more confident.

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Nick

Volunteer 'Tallguy' for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy

Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ ([email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>)

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